Trump Demands Biden Remove Ad of Him Calling Dead Soldiers ‘Suckers’ and ‘Losers’ - The former president said only a “psycho” or a “very stupid person” would’ve made such statements.

  • masquenox@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Now you’re just coming off as disingenuous.

    You coming face to face with the true implications of your own beliefs does not equate to any disingenuity on my part.

    War is not “honorable” combatants facing off against each other in a sterile environment as a lot of military historians try to purport - it’s slaughter. The vast majority of it’s victims aren’t even combatants. When you pretend that your preferred group of war criminals “respecting” the “other side” actually matters, are you including all the dead people that couldn’t fight back and therefore do not deserve any of this rarified “respect” of yours? Or are they just uninteresting externalities and “collateral damage” that doesn’t fit into the militaristic tropes your head has obviously been filled with?

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      6 months ago

      Nah, you’re still just making up opinions you want me to have so that you can think I’m an ass. Then you’re twisting my words in order to convince yourself I’m saying something I’m not.

      It’s honestly kind of impressive that you’re able to go from “I respect people who are willing to risk their own well being in order to protect others, without care for personal gain.” to what you just wrote. Like… that requires some pretty heavy handed misinterpretation.

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        6 months ago

        you want me to have so that you can think I’m an ass.

        I don’t think you’re an ass.

        It’s honestly kind of impressive that you’re able to go from “I respect people who are willing to risk their own well being in order to protect others, without care for personal gain.”

        Nope. Not impressive at all. Merely the result of not putting people on a pedestal simply because the narratives you have spun in your own head about them conforms to the tenets of militarism and nationalism that you have been feeding yourself.

        It requires a minimum of interrogation to come apart and it’s implications laid bare.

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          6 months ago

          You’re making arguments to attack positions I’m not trying to defend, and you seem completely unaware that you’re missing the mark.

          I’ve repeatedly tried to clarify this for you, but the way you’re blatantly ignoring my actual position, and instead making up proxy opinions that you ascribe to me and find it easier to argue against makes me think you’re either a troll or a pigeon. Either way arguing with you is rather pointless when you’d rather make up what you think my opinion is, and argue against that, than try to assess a position I’m actually willing to defend.

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            6 months ago

            I’m not trying to defend,

            Oh, I agree - you haven’t attempted a credible defense of your position at all. The entitlement is pretty much inline with all the rest of the thinly-veiled “manifest destiny” bs floating around here.

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                6 months ago

                I cannot take much credit for that, I’m afraid… once you understand the origin and purpose of a given propaganda narrative, it becomes very difficult to discuss anything with someone who has swallowed said narrative without pushing that button.