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      You have to recognize how absurdly fucked this logic is, right? “You have to vote for the guy currently in office who is actively supporting and supplying genocide or else you support genocide.”

      I’m not saying don’t vote, but I am saying that if you want to convince anyone who doesn’t already agree with you then you need to find a different tactic.

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          So your options are work to make it better or give up. You’ve chosen give up.

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              Then stop bothering the rest of us who are trying to make things better. Your whining from the peanut gallery is annoying. You aren’t going to get any sympathy for your bitching here.

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              My assumption is that you are white, middle class and cishet male. Because you can apparently afford to give up.

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                  my sincere apologies for what I am causing you.

                  Do you seriously not understand the implications of a Trump presidency for women, queer folk, transgender folk and minorities? The environment? Years of at least some progress on progressive policies? The minimum wage? Social Security? Democracy itself?

                  We don’t even have to speculate - they’ve literally told us what they are going to do.

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          Do you want the best possible outcome for gazans? Then vote for Biden. It really is that simple.

          You can simultaneously acknowledge that having Biden in the white house is the best outcome for gazans amongst possible alternatives, and that you find Biden’s position unconsciable.

          If you fail to take action, the plight of gazans will be worse, amongst many other disasters as yet unknown.

          You realise conservatives don’t want you to vote?

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              Do the dead gazans at the hands of American bombs think I should vote for Biden?

              Of course they would, because they know trump would actively grind their surviving families to dust.

              I’ve voted for the least evil in every election, only for us to arrive here.

              Yes but I’m sure you realise that’s not causative. We’re not in this situation because you voted progressive in every election. We’re in this situation because too many of your countrymen became apathetic and didn’t vote because “both sides are just as bad”.

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                  I don’t follow.

                  If everyone voted and the dems had a very clear majority that would make a very real difference in terms of the way the country is going.

                  If progressives like your good self withhold their vote in protest, the best we will get is the dems just barely getting up - the shitty status quo we have presently.

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              A democracy with only two options is a dictatorship of the winner. Your political influence isn’t limited to voting though, voting is the first action in a democracy, not the last.