As a second generation Latino I believe it has to do with assimilation. Most of my family works in construction in some way (including myself) and they’re usually uneducated and easily manipulated. It’s no surprise the right targets blue collar workers and bombards them with anti-social program rhetoric about “your tax dollars being used to fund the lazy” bullshit. Also, and I hate to say this, blacks and Latinos didn’t mix historically. The BLM stuff moved a lot of minorities (Asians and others) away from the left and I’m still embarrassed by it - another example being that Latinos and whites get along in California jails and don’t associate with blacks. Shits fucking retarded.
I can apply one of my favorite quotes to this situation: “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” - LBJ… but instead use brown instead of white 🤣
It has to do with minorities coming to America, finding some success and wondering why the black community can’t seem to break through. This line of rationale is over simplifying the long standing history of racism and oppression that has kept minorities down for generations in the US. All minorities in the US face an uphill battle in a sense, but folks who migrated more recently haven’t experienced it for generations (esp like the pre-civil rights gens did). The playing field is also improving, although still has a way to go, and more recent immigrants are in a better place to possibly find some degree of success. This makes some people, who don’t take the history into account, ask, “I did it, why can’t you?” …which is the republican mentality
I’ll leave a few examples of what I mean but growing up in the 90’s, it was cool to be racist against blacks. My family was no exception and it was expected of us to not get along. This wasn’t an isolated incident as the whole world of “pick-me-minorites” (including other black people) was growing. The system made us enemies and with it came a culture of acceptable racism. So it’s no surprise that these older generations still harbored some misguided hatred when the BLM protests/riots happened. My family, as much as I love them, are completely stupid and immature when it comes to racial issues. My own sweet mother is afraid of black people and is oftentimes on the giving end of some wild racist quotes. But her uncle was killed by a black man over a pair of shoes so I guess it’s “justified?” Obviously not.
So it could be a case of underlying racism that pushed them over the edge. The BLM movement was viewed negatively and as “typical behavior and patterns of violence of their kind” even though the overwhelming majority was peaceful. So it pushed the center to the right the right even further.
Anyways, here’s some links to the turmoil - not necessarily a direct link to my original claim but I guess you have to make the connection. The left media won’t (I sound so far-right right now 🤣)
I grew up in Southern California, in the 90’s during peak gang culture. It wasn’t about being “cool,” it was literally about two entirely different types of cultures that hated each other. My Mexican family blamed a lot of crime and issues in their neighborhoods on blacks, and vice versa. I went to a school that had gang fights every day, blacks hated Mexicans and Mexicans hated blacks. That’s why they even go their separate ways in prison. It wasn’t about being cool, it was about survival. And that mentality is generational. My uncles fought with blacks on the streets of Southern California, and now, my cousins are doing the same. I also don’t think it’s the “system.” It was literally stupid territory differences. It had nothing to with any kind of system, it was more about you stay where you’re at and take care of your people, and we’ll do the same…
Many Asians sadly fall victim to believing in the model minority myth, that Asians are somehow not like other immigrants because they “assimilated” in spite of racism against them without the chaotic and disruptive protests. In truth, the Asian model minority myth was and is a racial wedge used to push Asians against others, and itself perpetuates many harmful stereotypes. Never mind the fact that Asian civil rights movements were similar to (and in fact supported ) their Black counterparts, but erased from history.
Basically, BLM had the attitude of “if you’re not with us, you’re a racist.” And that was just way too extreme. Many people, including Latinos, just didn’t care, or didn’t want to get involved. When BLM started looting and burning down things in their neighborhoods, they became more angry and didn’t care even more. However, they were lumped together with everyone else as “racists” or “bigots” if they didn’t want to march hand in hand with blacks.
I’m 2nd generation and I disagree. My family tends to vote Republican because of their strong Catholic beliefs. My grandparents are good people, they’ve lived here for almost their entire lives (came from Mexico when they were young) and have always voted Republican because they believe the Republicans do more to protect religion. They’re not “uneducated” or “easily manipulated.” They simply think that the Left wants to take away things they have always felt very strong about, which is family and religion.
Democrats are no better. I mean, I grew up being told I’m deprived because I’m a minority, and that I should vote Democrat because of this reason. I remember literally being told by a teacher in 5th grade that I HAVE to vote Democrat because I’m Mexican. Democrats have done an excellent job manipulating minorities into thinking that they can only vote one way…
The teacher said, “I HAVE to vote democrat”, so that means I have to go the rest of my life not voting for democrats, even if it’s in my best interest, or else the teacher wins.
Really shows how petty and illogical humans can be.
none of that has anything to do with what I said, go seethe about democrats on your blog, I don’t care what your 5th grade teacher said because it has nothing to do with democratic policies
The argument isn’t as vague as it seems. The only way America is ever truly going to be great again is if we reduce military spending, strengthen education /social programs and tax the rich. It really is a war of the have and have nots, at the end of the day.
As a second generation Latino I believe it has to do with assimilation. Most of my family works in construction in some way (including myself) and they’re usually uneducated and easily manipulated. It’s no surprise the right targets blue collar workers and bombards them with anti-social program rhetoric about “your tax dollars being used to fund the lazy” bullshit. Also, and I hate to say this, blacks and Latinos didn’t mix historically. The BLM stuff moved a lot of minorities (Asians and others) away from the left and I’m still embarrassed by it - another example being that Latinos and whites get along in California jails and don’t associate with blacks. Shits fucking retarded.
I can apply one of my favorite quotes to this situation: “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” - LBJ… but instead use brown instead of white 🤣
Can you expand on this? I haven’t stumbled upon this before
It has to do with minorities coming to America, finding some success and wondering why the black community can’t seem to break through. This line of rationale is over simplifying the long standing history of racism and oppression that has kept minorities down for generations in the US. All minorities in the US face an uphill battle in a sense, but folks who migrated more recently haven’t experienced it for generations (esp like the pre-civil rights gens did). The playing field is also improving, although still has a way to go, and more recent immigrants are in a better place to possibly find some degree of success. This makes some people, who don’t take the history into account, ask, “I did it, why can’t you?” …which is the republican mentality
10000% this
I’ll leave a few examples of what I mean but growing up in the 90’s, it was cool to be racist against blacks. My family was no exception and it was expected of us to not get along. This wasn’t an isolated incident as the whole world of “pick-me-minorites” (including other black people) was growing. The system made us enemies and with it came a culture of acceptable racism. So it’s no surprise that these older generations still harbored some misguided hatred when the BLM protests/riots happened. My family, as much as I love them, are completely stupid and immature when it comes to racial issues. My own sweet mother is afraid of black people and is oftentimes on the giving end of some wild racist quotes. But her uncle was killed by a black man over a pair of shoes so I guess it’s “justified?” Obviously not.
So it could be a case of underlying racism that pushed them over the edge. The BLM movement was viewed negatively and as “typical behavior and patterns of violence of their kind” even though the overwhelming majority was peaceful. So it pushed the center to the right the right even further.
Anyways, here’s some links to the turmoil - not necessarily a direct link to my original claim but I guess you have to make the connection. The left media won’t (I sound so far-right right now 🤣)
https://www.vox.com/22321234/black-asian-american-tensions-solidarity-history
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooftop_Koreans
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1992/10/blacks-vs-browns/306655/
I grew up in Southern California, in the 90’s during peak gang culture. It wasn’t about being “cool,” it was literally about two entirely different types of cultures that hated each other. My Mexican family blamed a lot of crime and issues in their neighborhoods on blacks, and vice versa. I went to a school that had gang fights every day, blacks hated Mexicans and Mexicans hated blacks. That’s why they even go their separate ways in prison. It wasn’t about being cool, it was about survival. And that mentality is generational. My uncles fought with blacks on the streets of Southern California, and now, my cousins are doing the same. I also don’t think it’s the “system.” It was literally stupid territory differences. It had nothing to with any kind of system, it was more about you stay where you’re at and take care of your people, and we’ll do the same…
Many Asians sadly fall victim to believing in the model minority myth, that Asians are somehow not like other immigrants because they “assimilated” in spite of racism against them without the chaotic and disruptive protests. In truth, the Asian model minority myth was and is a racial wedge used to push Asians against others, and itself perpetuates many harmful stereotypes. Never mind the fact that Asian civil rights movements were similar to (and in fact supported ) their Black counterparts, but erased from history.
‘Model Minority’ Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks : Code Switch : NPR - https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/04/19/524571669/model-minority-myth-again-used-as-a-racial-wedge-between-asians-and-blacks
The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans - The Washington Post - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/29/the-real-reason-americans-stopped-spitting-on-asian-americans-and-started-praising-them/
Asian American movement - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_American_movement
Basically, BLM had the attitude of “if you’re not with us, you’re a racist.” And that was just way too extreme. Many people, including Latinos, just didn’t care, or didn’t want to get involved. When BLM started looting and burning down things in their neighborhoods, they became more angry and didn’t care even more. However, they were lumped together with everyone else as “racists” or “bigots” if they didn’t want to march hand in hand with blacks.
I’m 2nd generation and I disagree. My family tends to vote Republican because of their strong Catholic beliefs. My grandparents are good people, they’ve lived here for almost their entire lives (came from Mexico when they were young) and have always voted Republican because they believe the Republicans do more to protect religion. They’re not “uneducated” or “easily manipulated.” They simply think that the Left wants to take away things they have always felt very strong about, which is family and religion.
If they think religion needs protection, they are easily manipulated.
Democrats are no better. I mean, I grew up being told I’m deprived because I’m a minority, and that I should vote Democrat because of this reason. I remember literally being told by a teacher in 5th grade that I HAVE to vote Democrat because I’m Mexican. Democrats have done an excellent job manipulating minorities into thinking that they can only vote one way…
You literally let one Democrat teacher completely control your political beliefs lol
The teacher said, “I HAVE to vote democrat”, so that means I have to go the rest of my life not voting for democrats, even if it’s in my best interest, or else the teacher wins.
Really shows how petty and illogical humans can be.
none of that has anything to do with what I said, go seethe about democrats on your blog, I don’t care what your 5th grade teacher said because it has nothing to do with democratic policies
Democrats are a lot better tho
Still need to continue to hold them to higher and higher standards though.
The argument isn’t as vague as it seems. The only way America is ever truly going to be great again is if we reduce military spending, strengthen education /social programs and tax the rich. It really is a war of the have and have nots, at the end of the day.