• Sybil@lemmy.world
    12·
    9 个月前

    It honestly feels like this is a cheap rhetorical dismissal because you don’t want to compare what the actual material benefits of socialist revolutions are vs anarchist revolutions.

    that’s not what you proposed to use as a metric. i’m not sure how to quantify them and, frankly, or what a good measure would be, i guess.

    i do know that i don’t trust anyone else to decide how i keep myself fed and safe. given the choice in constructing a revolution, i would empower individuals to a maximum degree and destroy concentrations of power wherever they’re found.

    • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
      2·
      9 个月前

      i do know that i don’t trust anyone else to decide how i keep myself fed and safe.

      Thats some right libertarian hyper-individualist hogwash. Stop being alienated from your fellow workers.

      i would empower individuals to a maximum degree and destroy concentrations of power wherever they’re found.

      So, let’s say the workers form Soviets. Those Soviets have to be destroyed, right?

      • Sybil@lemmy.world
        11·
        9 个月前

        So, let’s say the workers form Soviets. Those Soviets have to be destroyed, right?

        it is going to depend, isn’t it? are the soviets operated with consent and consensus?

        i already explained i have no illusions that i can dictate what it’s going to look like after the revolution. i do know what i won’t tolerate.

        • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
          2·
          9 个月前

          are the soviets operated with consent and consensus?

          Is this material to whether the soviet is concentrating power? Either way you have a small group of people making legislative and executive actions.

          • Sybil@lemmy.world
            12·
            9 个月前

            Is this material to whether the soviet is concentrating power?

            a system that operates with consent and consensus has no authority.

            • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
              2·
              9 个月前

              Okay, you need to actually define authority, because I feel like each anarchist I’ve encountered has a different definition.

              • Sybil@lemmy.world
                12·
                9 个月前

                I know this was lazy. but I think it’s good enough.

                edit: oh. this is a bit better

      • Sybil@lemmy.world
        12·
        9 个月前

        Thats some right libertarian hyper-individualist hogwash. Stop being alienated from your fellow workers.

        i have no problem working with my neighbors. i have big problems with someone tellingme how we should do that.