Damn Lemmy users are no different from Reddit. Don’t read anything. Take anything you did read out of context. Be sure to rage post your own ignorance so we can all read about it.
You can help by clarifying the article
There are a bunch of free channels on the internet that some TVs can just stream without a dedicated app. These channels are supported by ads like cable/whatever channels, but not locked behind a subscription. VLC is supporting whatever formats they use to allow (or make it easier; IDK) people to watch them if they want.
The other part is that they’re working on web assembly to allow sites to use VLC as their embedded video player.
I’m so conflicted about web assembly. I’m a web developer and I think it’s going to be amazing eventually but 20% of me thinks it’s going to be a security nightmare and require a decade of fuck ups to reach its potential.
I’m mostly worried about how much less open this will make the web for simple local hacking. I often add small features to webapps I use by injecting code and hooking into their systems (when it’s not an app with open source, where I send a PR instead - and if I can work around issues I do contact the owners with a working fix).
This will be much harder with WebAssembly. Sure, there’ll be decompilers in time - but in the time it takes me to change a small piece of behaviour in such cases, I can add multiple features in the current JS environment, even if the code is obfuscated.
I’m more concerned that the web will get even slower and bloated. We are already seeing the first frameworks that ship a webassembly .NET runtime, Python runtime, JVM, … . I kinda fear that in 10 years when you visit a site you need to download runtime xyz in version abc for the 1000th time. All because some people or companies just can not be bothered to learn any new technology.
require a decade of fuck ups to reach its potential.
That’s quicker than people, heck I’m going on my 3rd decade and still not at my potential. Or so I like to tell myself.
Can web elements be sandboxed in any meaningful way?
Arent HTML5 players there for that?
you don’t even need a player script; browsers today can play media on their own.
and scripts with added features is a very crowded market.
He shouldn’t have to, the point is read before commenting about a clickbait headline. If he has to spell it out that only furthers his point.
Yes, he has no responsibility to explain it. But if he would like to help anyways, he could.
Damn Lemmy users are no different from Reddit
We’re do you think Lemmy got all its users?
Where do you think Lemmy got all its users?
Fixed that for you.
/le reddit larping
tips fedora
forgets to untip fedora
unzips fedora
sudo-es Fedora to mount a cbt device to the unzipped path
Was this comment meant for another thread? I’m confused
You forgot to mention it’s no different from Reddit with the horrible titles either.
Yeah sure it’s user fault and not the click bait headline, I’m sure they can describe the whole article in one headline without any confusion, oh and probably half of lemmy user are used to be redditers
What are you even talking about? Do you feel better after getting that off your chest?
Slightly wondering whether this is a roundabout way of creating Ad-Free YouTube playback capabilities. “Hey community, we are adding support for ad enabled streams. Would be a shame if you hated that so much you wrote some ad blocking plugins.”
Ad-Free YouTube playback capabilities.
The last time I tried, VLC could already do that.
That’s great, I had no idea!
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Very generous of you to assume that adding native support for advertising is a move to protect users from advertising…
Now you put it that way… 😃
You can already watch youtube ad-free with VLC…
That’s pretty cool, I didn’t know!
This is bad news. FAST streaming is an ad-riddled nightmare. VLC already supports streaming video just fine. Native support for FAST services just means native support for ads.
VLC already includes support for IPTV streams and M3Us. If you want to load FAST channels, you can do that now using a playlist from here: https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv
You’ll even get an ad-free / ad-reduced experience this way. FAST providers like Pluto and Tubi rebroadcast some TV channels and inject their own targeted ads. If you pipe the video stream into VLC, you’ll just see “commercial break in progress” filler video instead of commercials. Try it out with a local news station, they are all almost completely add free this way.
Enjoy this while you can, I guess…
I mean it’s just another format they’ll be supporting. If you don’t want to watch in that format, don’t.
FAST isn’t a format, it’s an integration. The format is streaming mpeg like everything else.
If FAST services want to be a part of VLC, they can just write their own extension.
I mean it’s just another service they’ll be supporting. If you don’t want to watch that service, don’t.
Better?
No, I don’t want any pro-profit ad-supported services integrated directly into a critical FOSS project like VideoLAN. This is a form of enshittification. VLC should NEVER implement native support for targeted advertising. Pluto and Tubi are already cramming ads into my smart TV, they need to stay the fuck away from VLC’s core code.
Freedom of choice is writing a channel service extension for VLC that I can install if I want to, not integrating non-free anti-consumer bullshit into the application itself.
I really don’t see how this is enshittification or anti-consumer. Nothing about your use of or experience of VLC changes if you simply don’t use FAST streams. To me this seems similar to whether or not to ship patent encumbered codecs.
What if Disney wanted to integrate their own DRM support into the Linux Kernel so you could watch Disney Blu-Ray movies? Would you accept the “you don’t have to watch Disney movies” justification?
I’d be fine with VLC having a way to watch proprietary Blu-Rays. I think it has that feature and it does seem useful for those who want to watch Disney Blu-Rays. VLC is supposed to be pretty much a swiss army knife of media players, after all.
If you wanted to compare to the kernel then best comparison would be to something like proprietary drivers or something.
Yay VLC!
From the tail end of the short, and easy to read article: If you want an early look at the upcoming changes with VLC 4.0, you can download (https://nightlies.videolan.org/?ref=news.itsfoss.com) the latest nightly release from the official website or the latest “Edge” build from the Snap store (https://snapcraft.io/vlc?ref=news.itsfoss.com). VLC 4.0 (Early Build) (Snap Store) (https://snapcraft.io/vlc?ref=news.itsfoss.com)Feels like the 4.0 version has been in alpha/beta for years now? I thought they abandoned the idea.
Yes, it’s been actual years.
They have an Ubuntu PPA which I used through distrobox. The weirdest way to get an app on the system, while there is a flatpak they dont seem interested in adopting it.
Some of the new stuff looks cool, and for all of these knee-jerk reactionaries… optional.
Didn’t it already have that for years? Sounds like they’re ‘just’ adding support for signing in/ads
It seems to be the FAST protocol/channels they are adding support for.
I’d rather be able to stream a file from my PC via VLC to other people with VLC.
If that’s already a thing, then I guess I just gotta figure it out…
VLC support RTMP, streaming a live feed like twitch. https://wiki.videolan.org/RTMP/
VLC also support reading from network https://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Play_HowTo/Basic_Use_0.9/Opening_modes/#Opening_a_Network
You are also able to generate a stream through multiple interfaces though I couldn’t find how. Still, it is officially reported as being possible. https://www.videolan.org/streaming-features.html
Yeah, I know about RTPM, but what I meant was more akin to streaming the file itself.
Take for example, me and my friends want to watch a movie. One of us has the movie. We all have VLC. The one with the movie loads the file, the others… Somehow… Connect to the VLC with the loaded file and have it directly stream to their own VLC.
I dig a little and there is an option on the GUI to easily stream. On the media menu, there is a stream option (CTRL+S) which allows you to stream a file using the interface you want. It will create a server and it’s up to you to make that server available to your friends (port forwarding). They will the open your video from a network interface link.
Though, while I did manage to stream between two instances of VLC on the same machine. It was after many attempts and I did not have any sound.
Not incredible, I will admit, but I’m quite confident it can work well once you understand what parameters to use.
I believe you can set up a http stream and then have others connect to it
mpv is our saviour.
Changes are looking good, great to see it is still very active!
I swore this was already a feature. I remember years ago (15+) I was able to play YouTube videos on it.
The new feature is for FAST, which is a type of IPTV stream. Imagine something akin to a TV channel guide, like Samsung’s and Roku’s built in streams.
And the “ad supported” bit is misleading; The channels are supported by ads, and run them as part of their programming. It’s not VLC showing ads before you’re allowed to stream the video, like YouTube. Just like regular TV channels, where they have commercial breaks.
The new feature is for FAST specifically.
Fork incoming.
That smells like proprietary software and drm
Oh god, no…
Remember those Winamp channels? Hope this leads into that. IPTV is supported by Winamp but not the easiest way to use it, maybe this would make that better too.
Edit - sorry I meant IPTV is supported by VLC*
I loved the Winamp channels. That’s where I learned about the existence of anime. I had no concept that things like Cardcaptors, Dragonball, Pokemon, etc were actually anime because I just saw them in English. But I found dubs through Winamp streaming and it sent me down the rabbit hole to buying DVDs and manga and learning to torrent fansubs. The good old days of my blazing fast 3mbps cable connection. It blew my mind coming from dial up.
Ain’t nobody want thisHowever, he also clarified that plans for this were not finalized yet, and if it were to happen, it would be optional for VLC users.
Happy to see some sanity prevails.
Having read the article, it sounds like the logical evolution of VLC. FAST Channels are here to stay and they actually are a vital thing in a world where Google have a monopoly on online video. While they’re not what I would go for, I’m glad they’re available as even my cable provider offers FAST channels.
Will be interesting to see VLC compete with JWPlayer and the various forks of it.
Also I don’t think anyone disagrees that the core needs rewriting and the UI needs a refresh. Wonder when Android will start seeing these builds on the beta channel.
