GOP will claim to be ‘pro life’ and then vote to allow IVF. Then they’ll say that they hate the bill.
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You don’t… You don’t think they were… Lying, do you?
I guess this will go like the recent vote where R shot down their own border policy proposal.
They can force a vote on IVF all of the sudden but not anything else?
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Back in the before times, bills would come to a vote and bills that had virtually total support would go thru with unanimous consent. Now, bills are blocked from being voted on so that Senators aren’t on the record being shitbags. As you quoted Vance saying, ““it’s idiotic for us to take the bait” in regards to Democrats using the bill to force Republicans to publicly declare whether or not they support IVF.”
Think about that statement from a Senator, then marvel at how fundamentally different he sees the job of a Senator from say, you or me or regular humans.
Duckworth is putting a face to whoever opposes a wildly popular issue, IVF treatment. It causes people to think about the issue, because legislators are in fact advocators (you know, in complete contrast to Vance trying to hide what he advocates for). There’s nothing performative about it.
in my opinion, it is the standard democrat cynicism. it is simply something that in the future can be used as a bullet point for her future candidacy. without context, one could write ‘honestly’ she “fought” for IVF.
For Duckworth and for many people, IVF is a opportunity that is basically magic. It changes their lives and it gives them the opportunity to have children. There are few things more powerful than that, and it’s tone deaf to an extreme degree to think that something is performative just because it isn’t targeted at you.
I mean, usually I’d say you’re being a petulant childish asshole, but I’m trying to be better too.
It’s ok if everything isn’t important to you, champ. It can be important to others and we can support that. There will be Republican supporters of IVF that wanna know too.
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It wasn’t for you. Your posts are banal and amateurish. It was for other people.
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What else can the Senate minority do Mr joad? Do you feel it would be better if the Senate minority just crossed their arms and wait it out?
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Holy shit Democrats yet again proving how dumb they are. Giving the clowns the stage turns it in to a clown show… Every. Time. Stop allowing the clowns to control the stage.
Can you elaborate on how this proves they are dumb?
By perpetually treating Republicans like they are engaging in good faith, Democrats allow them to pull the Overton Window to the right. Again and again, and after decades of it, fascists are now being treated as if they weren’t direct enemies of Americans less than 100 years ago.
Peoples’ grandparents fought to keep these ideologies out of the world, and now Democrats are going, “wait wait, let them cook!”
Fucking insanity.
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Trapping them in what? Their supporters don’t fucking care if they’re hypocrites.
You don’t convince the opposition to vote for your candidate. You energize your own voters. This proves to Democratic voters that there are no good Republicans on this issue.
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“You don’t convince your opposition to vote for you…”
Yes EXACTLY. Why do Democrats CONSTANTLY make appeals to the right, then?
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You make some excellent points and I want to say that I think it is really unfortunate you got hit by the downvote bus.
One in five women from 15 to 49 years of age suffer from infertility. That means that a large number of people that vote republican have benefited from IVF, hope to benefit from IVF or have a loved one who has or would. Demonstrating to them that their representative is trying to block that access can convince them to either vote for a different candidate or not vote at all. Either is a win for the Democrats.
I agree IVF is good. What the fuck are you defending?
My point is REPUBLICANS DON’T CARE!! You can point out how terrible and hypocritical it is all day, every day, and NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
I’m saying this is a proven bad tactic to use against Republicans. Republican in-fighting is NOTHING like Democrat infighting. They WILL pull together when it comes to harming others. Every. Time.
I’m not talking about the candidates, I’m talking about their voters. Their voters do care but they are badly uninformed and misinformed about a lot of things. Making them wake up and smell what they’re voting for is a good strategy.
Yeah, ensuring reproductive freedom is dumb.
Please explain to me how allowing Republican plans to move forward is DEFENDING anything.
bill through the Senate that would federally protect Americans’ right to access IVF
Republicans want to DEFEND IVF? News to me bucko.
