• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    It is genuinely remarkable that so many of those idiots still think theological patriarchy is a viable strategy in this day and age. I think we’ll be safe (as in, demographics will make it not viable for them to remain a political party) by 2030, but the next two presidential elections are gonna be a fucking nightmare.

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      2030 is too far away and i think that’s naive. we need them gone now. you don’t understand how ingrained conservative thinking is in rural areas. they aren’t going away. they’re making new ones every day.

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      11 months ago

      We’ve been saying conservatives will be marginalized soon since the 90’s. I really hope it happens in my lifetime. The infestation has only gotten worse.

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        But they have been marginalized, that’s why they’re not winning the popular vote.

        What we are witnessing are the death throes. They can no longer achieve their goals through democracy and so they have started trying to dismantle democracy.

        It was never going to be a peaceful transition of power, we’ll have to tear it from these dinosaurs’ dead claws, but the transition has already begun. If America can survive, I think we’ll start to see more and more left-leaning politics as Gen X and millenials replace boomers as a major voting bloc.

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        And had Gore won it may very well be true, but just cause something seems inevitable doesnt mean it is. Nothing great has been achieved through ignorant inaction.

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          Nothing great has been achieved through ignorant inaction.

          Agreed. Physical training, education and preparation will save innocent lives. Successfully resisting the conservatives will require it.

          It’s a great idea to join a local John Brown Gun Club and learn to shoot, even for non-combatants. First-aid / trauma-aid classes and MMA classes are also extremely helpful, even for pacifists.

          Conservatives are not pacifists and will not be kind or merciful to those who are unable to defend themselves.

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      11 months ago

      still think

      This is where you went wrong - they don’t “think” that, as in they sat down and logically reasoned it out, they “know” that, as in they were told it from a pastor behind a pulpit, who they pay part of their salary to. If they thought it then they could be convinced by the presentation of facts to now think differently, but since their belief comes from authority, there is really no way around that kind of brainwashing. That I know of at least, in anything like a mere few years.

      I honestly don’t know if our democracy will survive this challenge. What country has ever survived after devolving into a mere two party system, such that neither side does anything except try to block the other one? (That’s a legit question btw, if anyone knows the answer)

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      I think we’ll be safe (as in, demographics will make it not viable for them to remain a political party) by 2030

      If it were not for gerrymandering and several other kinds of election tampering, that would have happened at least a decade ago.

      As it is, they’re still clawing away at democracy to such a degree (and meeting so little resistance other than empty words for the press from the only ones with the power to stop them) that they’re likely to remain competitive indefinitely unless something changes dramatically.

      the next two presidential elections are gonna be a fucking nightmare.

      Sadly, it’s much more likely that every presidential election for the rest of my life will and I’m “only” 41.

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      Considering it’s gotten them power thus far, it seems to be working pretty well for them.

      I don’t disagree that it’s morally repugnant… but to say it doesn’t get them what they want is naive.

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        Oh, what I meant was that this whole “frighten all people who have a uterus such that they’ll vote against you in vastly overwhelming droves” strategy doesn’t seem like it’s gonna end well for them. I just hope it doesn’t end well for them quickly.

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          Most conservative women that I know aren’t one bit frightened. They should be, but they are not. They still think that nothing will happen to them, and they will go on thinking that despite all evidence to the contrary.

          On the other hand, what they are frightened of and angry about is the LGBTQIA+ agenda being pushed onto schools. Do NOT overestimate the level of logical thought that such people are willing to put into voting, as compared to respecting authority structures (chiefly, the ones they are told to respect at church, while conversely disrespecting the other stuff they are told to do so with, also at church).