Reddit says First Amendment rights protect it from having to disclose users' info.
    • ramble81@lemm.eeEnglish
      18·
      11 months ago

      Yeah I hate the phrasing of the headline. Makes you sounds like they did turn it over. And then you get that last part of the sentence.

  • Art35ian@lemmy.worldEnglish
    64·
    11 months ago

    a) discussions aren’t a crime.

    b) what are studios going to do to the hundreds of millions of daily pirates? Write stern letters?

    c) they tried identifying us and sending us stern letters in 2001 and we all laughed, then kept pirating anyway.

    • Spotlight7573@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      11 months ago

      b and c) Go after the ISPs who don’t disconnect the pirating users and sue them instead. Go after the deep pockets.

      • Arcane_Trixster@lemm.eeEnglish
        10·
        11 months ago

        They did that too. Most ISP’S outside of Comcast shrugged as well. The studios lost this fight almost 2 decades ago.

    • Kanda@reddthat.comEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Yes they will write stern, spooky letters to the tone of “give us money or get sued”. Then they take the money they get, and sue no one because they have no evidence.

      It’s basically a 419 scam, but with lawyers

  • ULS@lemmy.mlEnglish
    502·
    11 months ago

    There’s like 2 decent movies released per year. I think people can do without.

  • notannpc@lemmy.worldEnglish
    43·
    11 months ago

    Or, perhaps it would be more cost effective to spend your money developing a way to access content that isn’t user-hostile. Then, suddenly, piracy wouldn’t be on the rise.

  • TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyzEnglish
    342·
    11 months ago

    I’m very surprised that Reddit didn’t immediately bend the knee. If they succeed in going public this policy will not continue

    • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      13·
      11 months ago

      if they gave in for one, they would be in for all

      so they have to fight to be forced so they don’t have to answer every request

    • dalë@lemm.eeEnglish
      61·
      11 months ago

      Probably because the brown envelope wasn’t think enough.

      I’m sure for the right “incentive” they’ll happily cooperate.

    • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      11 months ago

      Maybe, but at least Reddit is big enough it can say “no”. You have no rights B over whether it dies, but it can. A smaller device may not be able to afford to.

      What would happen on Lemmy? I seriously doubt anyone hosting Lemmy could afford a legal battle with something that big.

      A better argument is “shut the hell up”. You’re playing with fire by discussing something a place deems illegal, on a service under the legal jurisdiction deeming it illegal. You really can’t assume any right to privacy online. Use your VPN first, and discuss it in a jurisdiction where it is ok. Countries are better suited to “just say no”

      • ilikecoffee@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        11 months ago

        What would happen on Lemmy?

        You switch to a different instance that isn’t snitching on you, right? There’s already so many instances, big and small, that I don’t think it would be feasible for the movie people to go after all of them.

  • Mario_Dies.wav@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    231·
    11 months ago

    This must be the reason every piracy community I know has strict rules about not requesting specific titles. Even if they had the IPs, I’m not sure what they could prosecute, especially considering the number of users who use a VPN.

        • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          11 months ago

          Torrents are metadata files, they’re absolutely hosted on websites.

          They only describe how your BitTorrent client can initiate the p2p connection, they obviously don’t have the actual data that’s shared, only info about that data.

          • far_university1990@feddit.deEnglish
            1·
            11 months ago

            But why do they need to worry, they do not host anything illegal (also if they only store magnet, they do not even need to store torrent). If linking to illegal content was illegal, google would be dead by now.

            Edit: do not host anything illegal = none of the illegal data in the torrents files

      • Spotlight7573@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        Or the ISPs in this case. They want the information about the pirates to use them as witnesses to show that the ISP didn’t terminate copyright infringing users, even when notified dozens of times and to show that the ISPs benefitted from these practices by retaining them as paying customers.

  • FrostyTrichs@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    11 months ago

    Strange, my reddit account seems to have had all its posts and comments deleted and my IP leads back to Proton. Oopsy daisy. Get fucked clowns.

  • hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    18·
    11 months ago

    I said this on the last repost as well.

    Obviously there are reasons the film studios want that but actually getting information because you suspect someone crimes a bit too hard online is really tough. Your evidence must be waterproof to get a subpoena and until then you can run into a plathera of different issues thanks to airtight GDPR rules that still apply to US companies as well (they updated them to be even more strict with their newer compliance laws last year).

    Actually there’s a good chance that sharing data or IPs without a subpoena could be not only devastating to any potential legal case, but also to Reddit. They will never do this because they stand to gain nothing from it as is and if they wanna go IPO they can’t pull such shakes moves rn.

    Obligatory IANAL, if you need legal advice, ask a lawyer because they need all your context and they will know the ins and outs of their field.