The removal from the service thing is the most absurd part of these announcements, that was the benefit of VOD, that we could access what we wanted.
Shows have gotten cancelled when they are popular and on a cliff-hanger throughout the last 60 years, but the removal thing is new and a massive decline from the accessibility improvements that were made over the last 15 years.
Fortunately for me, my personal server doesn’t have this issue.
It also makes it impossible for a show to get later word of mouth bumps. Nobody sees it, new users don’t even know it exists, and so it has no metrics and no future whatsoever.
That’s how Star Trek succeeded after The Original Series, but now there is no physical media comparable to streaming.
You would think that the content would still be licensed by another streamer like Tubi etc, but then they have to factor their property only being available on a competitor.
It’s never been a better time to selfhost.
Don’t streaming platforms remove canceled shows so they don’t have to pay residuals to actors (or whoever is contractually getting them)? I’ve understood that streaming residuals are pretty shit to begin with
Sometimes. Other times it’s a tax write-off apparently.
Or – probably – a tax write-off and a way to dodge residuals
Yep. It’s corporate greed, plain and simple, and it’s disgusting.
Canceling it is one thing. Pulling the show down from the service is absolutely abhorrent behavior.
Fully agree. There is absolutely no reason to do so!
To avoid paying royalties, I imagine. Hollywood accounting is craaaaazy.
Itunes has all of S1 for 9.99 today. I’m buying in support of the show.
code for “Prodigy is about to become super hot on pirate sites”
And shit like this is why I’m a data hoarder lol
Confirmed by Deadline, with some added details:
The new season will complete post-production, and the studio will be looking for a new home for Star Trek: Prodigy as season one comes off the service shortly.
The company said that “continues to be invested in growing the Star Trek franchise” with series including Star Trek: Starfleet Academy, movie event Star Trek: Section 31, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, which returned for its second season June 15 and has been renewed for a third season, animated series Star Trek: Lower Decks, which will return for its fourth season later this year and has also been renewed for a fifth season, the upcoming final season of Star Trek: Discovery as well as Star Trek: Picard.
Update from series writer Aaron J. Waltke:
Obviously, there is not much I can say. Everyone on the cast and crew loves #StarTrekProdigy deeply.
I have noticed some misleading headlines, so all I can do is point to this particular part of the press release.
We are completing season two on schedule and seeking a new home!
Variety’s report contains this:
According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, although the show had aired on Nickelodeon in addition to Paramount+, it will not be returning to Nickelodeon either. Those on the show will complete post-production on Season 2 and then CBS Studios will be free to shop it to other outlets.
For goodness sake. Paramount+ just gained “The spot for all Star Trek films and series” earlier this month. Now, they have to put an asterisk on that statement, “*except Prodigy.”
@Nmyownworld @ValueSubtracted What I struggle to understand is how they don’t immediately see how this will only undermine subscriber confidence
It’s the hot new trend - Warner and Disney have each done the same thing.
ugh, this destroys a lot of the appeal of Paramount+ for me. the only reason i have a subscription is that it’s the one-stop-shop for all things star trek, but i guess not anymore.
They’re also really boosting the appeal of piracy (not that i would ever recommend somebody reading this post commit piracy) because that’s the only way to reliably enjoy the things you would otherwise be paying to rent.
Ouch, that must hurt for Kate Mulgrew and the team.
Why would Paramount remove the existing episodes from streaming service though? They have everything else Trek.
@triktrek Same reason HBO removed Westworld… Saving on residuals. All about that bottom line, amirite? 🙄
Ah so it is just about residuals, I was just speculating on another comment that that might be the reason.
This fucking sociopathic cutthroat capitalism where literally nothing matters except squeezing more money out of everyone is getting real damn old
removing it completely is a bit extreme
They ended up removing it earlier than they planned because so many people were rushing to watch it before it was removed.
lmaooooo
I guess they were concerned about all the views reducing the value of the tax write-off.
So, instead of SNW in the top of the Nielsen streaming numbers for this week (as they surely hoped), in a month from now we’ll see the figures for this week with Prodigy in the Nielsen top ten like 1923 and Picard.
I wonder what investors and the IRS will make of that…
I wonder what
investors andthe IRS will make of that…A whole big bag of nothing, it’s CBS. Investors on the other hand, dunno.
Oh man. I never got around to watching it!
I saw the trailer and figured it was a kids show and never watched.
It’s actually a decent Trek show, and had Kate Mulgrew as Janeway for bonus points. Way better Trek than Discovery and Picard, at least.
Including Picard season 3? 1+2 and 3 are so different that I think it’s almost unfair to even lump them together.
(On IMDb, the worst-rated episodes of S3 are about tied with the best of S1+2.)meh, I don’t trust IMDb ratings on trek, a certain section of angry star trek “fans” seem like they review bomb star trek shows pretty hard
It absolutely is a kid’s show but once you get past the first few episodes and ESPECIALLY the second half of the season, it’s utterly Star Trek and pulls off a better season arc than any of the other modern Treks. ^Plus Janeway jokes about turning into a salamander.^
The last few episodes are especially classic Trek.
I get cancelling it but why remove it?
I guess to stop paying creators
Can someone please ELI5 this? If it’s streamed on another service (which apparently it will), then wouldn’t the creators have to be paid too? How does this all relate?
Paramount doesn’t have to pay them, whoever picks it up does.
Not enjoying this new trend of removing content. Hopefully will be available to purchase.
anyone that torrented it still has a copy 😜
I try to support the content I love. Not commenting on others actions but I do not sail the high seas. But I do think that modern content ownership is grey and we are going to be getting into issues where content is not available anywhere legally.
modern content ownership is grey
It’s worse than grey. It doesn’t exist unless you hold physical media in your hand.
Supporting content is noble and I do commend you for your intentions.
Yet, I can’t shake the feeling that supporting streaming services is more of an encouragement for the companies to wave cool creations in front of you then immediately snatch it away again.
You can support it by buying physical or digital copies as well.
By the same token you can not support business practices. When my term is up I will cancel p+ and just buy the shows i want to watch instead.
Was it that poorly received? I thought it was great for a kid show.
Had a kid that loved it and he generally refuses to watch any trek show. Cutting off that audience is going to cost them in the long run but I don’t think the owners of the IP have a long term vision
It was a great kid’s show AND great star trek.
It was well received.there is no good reason for doing this.
Exactly, Prodigy was a surprise gem and is at the bottom of the list of current Star Trek shows that should’ve been canceled.
- Discovery is an awful, manic, canon-wrecking mess and needs to go.
- Strange New Worlds inherits most of that awfulness, is incredibly overrated, and also needs to go.
- Picard was shaky but the final season finally delivered, thank the gods.
- Lower Decks is well-written, nuanced, a good citizen of canon, and just wonderful.
- Prodigy is well-written, nuanced, a good citizen of canon, and just wonderful.
But the popular narrative is all over the place. People hate Discovery but love Strange New Worlds despite them being almost identical. People love Lower Decks and are tepid about Prodigy despite them having a very similar tone.
At least most people seem to agree on Picard now.
