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Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor said on Sunday it had “concerns” about possible organ theft from Palestinian corpses, following reports by medical professionals in Gaza who examined some bodies after they were released by Israel.
The NGO claimed it has documented Israeli forces confiscating dozens of dead bodies from the al-Shifa and Indonesian hospitals in northern Gaza, alongside others in the south.
Medical professionals reportedly found vital organs, such as livers, kidneys and hearts, alongside cochleas and corneas, were missing, which the Euro-Med Monitor called “evidence” of potential organ theft.
They also claimed Israel exhumed and confiscated corpses from a mass grave that was dug more than 10 days ago in a courtyard at al-Shifa.
Israel has previously denied harvesting organs from dead Palestinians without the consent of families, calling such accusations “antisemitic”.
This is another one of those stories (like the “40 beheaded babies!”) that seems awfully suspicious. Please don’t take stories like this at face value.
Organs only remain viable for so many hours after death, so the idea of digging up a mass grave for organs seems sus:
https://www.donoralliance.org/newsroom/donation-essentials/what-is-the-time-frame-for-transplanting-organs/
Not to mention cause of death and the person’s health before death is really important for the organs as well
This article just screams misinformation
if it’s for research it’s perfectly valid to use unhealthy krgans
“sus” is a very light word for an obviously made up story.
Why people focus on this “40 babies” story is also beyond me. As if it matters if the person was 12 months, 3 years, 8 etc. to begin with.
Not to mention that someone going through that horror, helping victims and seeing brutally murdered people for hours OBVIOUSLY is going to say nonsense. As if that person is somehow unaffected by that. People say nonsense in far less serious situations. I blame this on the media and the people sucking it up (on both sides!).
40 is a special number. So as soon as I saw the claim of 40 I figured something was up with that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_(number)
“The number 40 is found in many traditions without any universal explanation for its use. In Jewish, Christian, Islamic, and other Middle Eastern traditions it is taken to represent a large, approximate number, similar to “umpteen”.”
It’s a classic propaganda technique.
If there’s a statement that has some truth and some falsehood (such as an exaggerated number by a single person interviewed about a terrorist attack after retrieving the bodies from it), you repeat and point out the falsehood loudly over and over to distract and discredit the truthful parts.
So we aren’t having discussions around whether any babies or infants were decapitated or burned alive or any number of horrendous things reported, because the number specifically beheaded didn’t total 40 and we’ve been conditioned to think that’s the important part of the statement.
Like, in my mind, a single baby or infant or toddler being beheaded by terrorists is pretty reprehensible and worth discussing. But 99% of the conversations taking place about baby beheading is instead that no claims about the atrocities committed can be trusted because there weren’t 40 beheaded babies which was what a single person had said in an interview.
It’s extremely effective.
And honestly, it’s pretty gross that the rallying cry of ideological defense for Hamas is “there weren’t forty beheaded babies so any number less tortured children doesn’t count, no take backs.”
It’d be like absolving Likud of indiscriminate bombing because the number of women and children reported killed by Hamas was higher than the body count as counted by a third party investigator.
40 is higher than the number of babies reported in that settlement
it’s literally impossible
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It’s been claimed by an European NGO so I wouldn’t say it holds as little weight as a US president’s statement.
https://euromedmonitor.org/en
Can you provide a link to their actual claim? Other commentors have stated there’s no such claim on their site
I just found the news article corroborated by multiple western sources but I did some additional digging now.
I found a two week old article the site but not a more recent one. I’m not sure if this is the publication that the news sites based their articles on or if there is a more recent one.
The conclusion seems to hang on allegations by the hospital director and ministry of health, but the corpses being stolen by the IDF seems pretty weird to begin with. Especially with their past reputation for organ theft.
This recent Aljazeera video does seem to confirm at least 80 stolen bodies being returned
It would be great if independent journalists were actually able to get into Gaza. The hospital director has invited an independent investigation but of course this gets blocked by israel.
can you report this as a top level comments?
Euro med has a history of spreading pro-Palestine fake news.
I’m not saying this is or isn’t happening, but they could use the organs for research or students rather than transplantation. In that case it might be interesting to see what a heart looks like after it’s been decomposing for ten days.
This is true, and stranger things have happened in the US of all places:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/body-alabama-inmate-found-dead-prison-was-returned-family-heart-missin-rcna129737
But in that case, I don’t think you’d apply the word “harvested”.
I really detest shit like this, it just gives ammo for defense for horrible people/groups/states. There’s actual horrible crimes done by Israel that should be covered and investigated and punished for. Making shit up allows them to deflect with “Well if the harvesting organs is fake, bombing a hospital must be too!”
Same for Russia, USSR, China, NATO/America, Republicans, Democrats, and so on. When here’s actual horrible things to criticize and use for proof, making shit up doesn’t help anyone but those people who already have an easy time getting away with horrid shit.
The hospital bombong was literally Hamas hitting their own hospital and instantly blaming Israel with 50x the real death count. That too is a very bad example.
While some evidence points to Islamic Jihad (which was the party accused, not Hamas), there’s no solid evidence either way, although it seems likely to be a misfire from Islamic Jihad. This is of course only one of several hospitals that has been bombed since by Israel.
While some evidence points to Islamic Jihad (which was the party accused, not Hamas), there’s no solid evidence either way, although it seems likely to be a misfire from Islamic Jihad. This is of course only one of several hospitals that has been bombed since by Israel.
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