• Klear@piefed.world
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    1 month ago

    I tried reading the article, got about halfway through and it just keeps repeating the same thing over and over again. It starts with this:

    There’s a shortage coming that nobody’s put on a slide yet: senior engineers. Every company on earth is about to want one who can drive a fleet of agents with judgment — and almost nobody is making new ones anymore, because AI ate the entry-level work juniors used to learn on

    That’s it. That’s the whole article as far as I was willing to read. There’s almost no extra information further down. Holy hell.

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      Typical modern article. And then some people are going angry “You obviously have read only the title, not the article in full”. Wonder why people limit themselves only to titles? Maybe because the article is 2 sentences worth of data fit into 20 paragraphs of the life story of Jane Smith who was amazed and sat in awe after reading e-mail that will change her life?

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      I got retired about six months before I was planning to. That line would have to be a lot steeper to get me to go back.

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        Yup, nobody can get to senior for the same reason RAM is so high: LLMs. In this case, big-brained execs not hiring anyone at lower levels and replacing them all with AI…a little down the road there will be one old engineer named Lily who still understands how tech works and everyone will call her the oracle.

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          If you can afford taking a few years off in the first place, you can also afford starting a company and doing your own projects for a while. Don’t leave the field behind, put some software on app stores and pick your topics by what skills you want to learn or maintain. Maybe it even makes money.

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    Stop hiring and mentoring junior engineers and you’ve quietly unplugged the machine that makes senior ones. A few years out, you run dry — right when everyone else is dry too, and the price of the few left goes through the roof.

    Written by AI

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    There’s a terrific writeup from the folks at FlintAI — their team is now 5 devs and 45 agents, all living in Slack. Nine agents per developer. The agents take roles — triage, deploy, review — the human steps in for the two decisions that actually matter (code review, release approval), and they report something like a 3x productivity bump. It’s a genuinely impressive piece of engineering and you should read it.

    That’s the model everybody’s racing toward right now: take your best seniors, strap nine agents to them, and harvest the multiple. And it works! I’m not knocking it (and I’m doing it too)!

    I’m a senior but if the future of my work is reviewing AI code all day I will buy a bunch of goats and become a goatherder.

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      I’ve already started rebelling. That won “efficiency” is in part mine, I’m just going home. Why would I allow my bosses to reap all of the rewards for my shittier workday? And if they don’t agree, I’m going back to writing by hand.

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      So basically the AI company with AI in the name uses AI a bunch and evangelizes it.

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    Companies are not only no longer taking on juniors, they’re making hardware prohibitively expensive. Where do they expect to get their talent if they force everyone to use their braindead toys?

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    So soon? I figured it’d take a couple years for them to realize how they shot themselves in the foot by not hiring juniors anymore.

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      It’s fucked and it has been for a while now. You see, you currently put yourself at a disadvantage if you DO hire juniors because later down the line others will just poach them from you. You’ll be lucky if they ever turn into a net positive for your country.

      Only way this changes is if most big companies that can take the budget hit start hiring juniors again. Fat chance of that right now.

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      Yeah definitely. From the opener “There’s a shortage coming that nobody’s put on a slide yet” onwards it reads like I’m reading Claude output.

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        Has anyone coined a term for that style of writing. I was in a presentation the other day and the guy was very clearly reading what Claude had wrote. It was so annoying. He wasted my time. I could have just asked Claude.

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    This post is the piece those two were circling around: what happens to the bottom of the chart, and whose job it is to fix it. Spoiler — it’s yours, senior engineer. It’s mine. And most of us are about to get it wrong in a very specific, very tempting way.

    BS. Most good seniors I know would love to hire more juniors, feel badly for the mass of recent college grads who are unemployed, and enjoy mentoring new engineers without needing a wall of AI slop to tell them to do so. When you give us control over the hiring budget and let us hire juniors again, you can blame us for the future senior engineer shortage. Until then, blame the people actually at fault (management, executives, the investor class), not us.

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    Everyone thinks LLMs boost productivity. But from psychological point of view, the developer being both the subject and the object is no where near scientific and reliable.

    In other words, the developer who is using the LLM also reports they are productive. But humans can rarely be good judge over themselves. That’s why we’ve got therapists. So we have to wait for some serious and well done research if LLMs boost productivity.

    Another concern I have which prevents me from using LLMs, is the unknown long term effect on the codebase. You know, writing something is much easier than maintaining it for years after years. And every decision you make, you must be mindful of this. So I’m gonna wait and see what’ll happen after 1-3 years to the softwares with heavy LLM assists. Will their codebase still be easy to maintain?