• Schmoo@slrpnk.net
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    rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property, and equality before the law.

    One of those things is not like the others, and that’s the fundamental problem with liberalism. Private property is antithetical to liberty, equality, and consent of the governed because it enables the exploitation of labor and creates a class hierarchy. By defending the individual’s “right” to private property liberals betray every other value they claim to uphold.

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      I’m only replying because I think this is a situation of conflicting definitions.

      In terms of liberalism, private property is the legally recognized right of individuals or non-governmental groups to own, control, use, and transfer land, goods, and assets to the exclusion of others.

      I think folks should be working off the same definitions in a conversation, or at least clarify their working definitions and identify differences. E.g. private vs personal property. If you believe in your right to own a toothbrush, or a painting, or a mattress, and have control over its use or exclusion of use by others, then whether you call it private property or personal property rights, I think you are on the same page, in principle, with most folks. After that, the difference is a matter of extent to common societal infrastructure.

      But not clarifying the words we use and what we mean them to be makes everyone feel further apart on these issues.

      Just my two cents.