Working class people, and especially women, like Mendoza, have rarely had a seat at the political table, though they make up nearly half of working-class voters, the group Republicans desperately want to cling onto and that Democrats hope to draw back.

It’s a group that is more diverse now than it’s ever been. Gone are the days when the only image of a working-class voter was a blue-collar White man who works in a factory and drives a truck, though that is still who politicians often pander to.

Political messaging that speaks to the everyday needs of the diversifying working class could recapture the interest of the group, which has long been disillusioned by political candidates who don’t actually understand them.

Definitions of what makes a working-class voter differ depending on who you ask. If it’s education — those who have less than a bachelor’s degree — then nearly half of the working class is women; in parts of the country, most of them are also people of color, said Valerie Wilson, a labor economist at the Economic Policy Institute who has studied working-class people. If working-class voters are those working low-wage jobs, then they are already majority women, who occupy two-thirds of the 40 lowest-paid occupations.

“The sort of traditional view of ‘working class’ was a White man in a hard hat, a construction worker, maybe someone who was in manufacturing,” Wilson said. That’s gone now as those jobs have disappeared and service-sector jobs dominated by women have become the primary field for people without college degrees. Working-class people are now mostly service, retail and care workers, a group often forgotten in political and economic conversations in part because the work has been seen as gendered labor, though they have a front seat to most of the financial troubles that have plagued the country over the past several years. You don’t have to tell women, who do the majority of consumer purchases in this country, that groceries and gas are more expensive. They’ve lived it.

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    That’s just because Hillary was universally despised. The DNC was trash, but letting her run was a terrible idea. They got cocky thinking literally anyone would be able to sweep Trump.

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      Harris didn’t fair much better. Dems need to actually work for people’s votes instead of assuming people will vote for them because they’re not Trump. And women won’t simply vote for another woman.

      A fundamental misunderstanding of working-class voters — and the messages that resonate with them — caused Democrats to fumble their advantage with this group in recent years. Twenty years ago, Democrats enjoyed a 14-point advantage with voters who didn’t have a bachelor’s degree. By 2024, Republicans had a 6-point advantage instead. In the 2024 presidential election, working-class voters favored President Donald Trump by 14 points.

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        If Harris were competent, she likely would’ve won. Honestly, I’m convinced that she didn’t want the position, as she put in zero effort to distinguish herself from Biden.

        She just sort of floated to the vice presidency on the failures of other politicians and then was forced into the spotlight after Biden lost donor support. Her campaign slogan was, “Nothing will change,” and it was completely expected that she would lose.

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        Yes, the average voter might not even bother to vote when one side is raving about how they’ll strip those voters rights away. Gotta work extra hard to win them over into not screwing themselves over.

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          I know y’all want to treat working class voters as idiots, and many of them are, but that doesn’t solve how to win elections moving forward.

          Most people don’t even realize that the USPS has been compromised. I think the Dems are wasting time right now (purposefully or not) by pointing at everything else but their own messaging and record of abandoning the working class.

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        Working class is not “doesn’t have a bachelor’s degree”. Using that measure with two decades between is biasing it toward older people. Twenty years ago, the number of 30 year olds without a college degree was much higher than it is today. And many of those young college graduates are working paycheck to paycheck at the mercy of their employer.

        The conflation of education with class and use of measures that amplify non-class related correlations with conservativism feels kind of sloppy when trying to highlight women being forgotten in the idea space of “working class”. The same thing continues when the measure of choice is later “white working class women”.

        I’m not saying we shouldn’t be trying to win those voters, but starting out with “working class” and then relying on statistics that have major non-class correlations seems like it’s playing into the exact same issues as pretending “working class” means men does.

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            In a class sense, those who must work to support their continued safety and health. If you’ll spend most of your life at the whiims of a boss because you have to, you’re working class.

            In the perverted income-based American form, it’s usually used as a euphemism for “lower-middle” that at least has some inklings of class involved. Even there it’s very much not “non-college educated”. Jim Bob who owns 4 car dealerships is not college educated.

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              That definition doesn’t exclude the demographic the article is talking about. Those voters who must work to support themselves and their family still include a huge number of women. That the Dems have lost ground with people who view themselves as working class is the real story here. They can still cater to those that are more educated, and they should try to reach more than just working class, but that doesn’t win them elections anymore.

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                I never said it did. I said the article and it’s hard metrics all exclude working class people to paint a picture of a conservative working class. The point is we don’t know, from this article, that Democrats have lost ground with the working class, because whenever numbers are involved they choose measures that don’t actually measure the working class and specifically intertwine them with aspects that are more conservative.

                Even your final line implicitly associates education with class, when it couldn’t be further from the truth for a lot of people today. Do you think college educated baristas don’t think they’re working class? And that’s even by the income-based measure intended to put a “middle-class” buffer to protect from any sort of worker vs. capital framing.

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                  That the Dems have lost ground with people who view themselves as working class is the real story here.

                  It’s like you’re not reading the article or comprehending my replies. Of course I think that the college educated baristas probably view themselves as working class. Do you think the Dems strategy have been effective at earning that baristas vote regardless of their college-educated background?

                  The article, which I pulled out for the excerpt, even acknowledges that the definition of working class has shifted:

                  Definitions of what makes a working-class voter differ depending on who you ask.

                  The past couple of years have been particularly challenging for working-class women in the economy. They returned to work in high numbers after the pandemic, benefiting from a climate in which businesses were offering better benefits, more flexibility and higher pay, which allowed them to move into good jobs. But those improvements were short-lived.

                  “We’re seeing a pretty stunning reversal of that that is impacting the real working-class jobs that are sort of manual labor, low-wage, low-education requirement jobs predominantly held by women,” said Kate Bahn, the chief economist and senior vice president of research at the Institute for Women’s Policy Research, a think tank focused on gender and economic equity.

                  The evidence is in the gender pay gap: After years of shrinking, the gap actually widened over the past two years for the first time since the 1960s.

                  Working class women are facing a labor market far more unstable than in the last election cycle, and they’re looking for candidates who understand that, voters told The 19th.

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                    Literally this entire conversation you haven’t even tried to address the instigating criticism of the article both using the wrong-headed definition of class as education and that their statistics are filtered to create a Republican bias unrelated to class. It talks about class being a fuzzy term and other races existing, but when it tries to demonstrate the problem it’s just white women and the non-college educated “class”. All while relaying absurd quotes about how they like people that talk to them directly and are successful through their own hard work like Trump.

                    And while people do have kind of a fuzzy definition of working class, that definition isn’t education. Most people identify as “working class” and fewer than 1% of respondents defined it by education. Media and think-tanks that have latched onto “non-college educated = working class” do so intentionally. They want it to represent a dwindling thing from when boomers worked hard and didn’t complain, not anything to do with labor and capital.