Maybe the tech industry mostly sucks? Most programmers will write anything for the right cost, regardless of how evil a company overtly acts? I hope I’m just being cynical but I assume most think “if I don’t work for this company someone else will”.
There are also enough engineers looking for jobs that companies can be picky and only hire the ones who seem agreeable and inoffensive, which reinforces the dynamic. “Idealistic” folks accumulate employment gaps that they have to explain or which cause AI ATS systems to auto reject their application before a human ever sees it, meanwhile management and hiring panels become increasingly corporate and less tolerant of difference because that’s who gets hired.
I don’t disagree with a lot of the advice here as a practical thing (e.g., having a scrubbed public image online, assuming that someone evaluating your job application will research you), but I also remember a time when you didn’t have to do that to work in the industry. A lot of the smartest, most creative folks in my CS program were also outspoken on (e.g.) privacy or civil rights in ways that could be tied to their real name, and it makes me kind of sad to think that they’d probably have to hide that today if they wanted to get hired as a new grad.
; thank you OpenAI nee Microsoft.
What does this nee formulation mean, or is this a typo?
They’re being snarky and saying OpenAI is a subsidiary or spinoff of Microsoft. Maybe because of the amount of money MS has dumped into it?
I know when I make white people uncomfortable and I’m not capable of being a respectable Negro
Oof
I read that comment before I read the article, and it reads quite differently seeing that that excludes this start of the sentence:
I also know when
i.e. I take that as the literal opposite: they can predict and avoid that situation.
Updated to include the whole thing. I typically look for places to shorten and maintain the reason I’m quoting. You’re right in this case it kinda changes tone.
Either way, it’s… odd. Not even sure what it means.
Yeah what does that even mean… Every single one of us wears a mask at work and I feel like making that statement about interviews in general is very strange
You can’t silence your way out of your skin. Your skin follows you. Its likely tied to culture that’s not the same. It’s associated with being inferior by way of statistics in ways white people don’t. If you’re a woman, now it’s even harder
In the spirit of offering some constructive feedback/raise awareness,
Developers are not the only ones using AI. Nowadays recruiters use AI ao automatically filter potential good fits for a position based on whatever signal they can gather. This means CV but also cover letters, portfolios,etc. sites such as LinkedIn even started offering a quick fit assessment based on the metadata you provide in your profile.
What this means is that, from a candidate perspective, it’s crucial that you start your application with a CV that you create specifically targeting the position you’re applying to. Your first barrier to entry is the AI assistant that is tasked with assessing fit.
You can still create your CV by hand, but your CV must be created with the express purpose of being parsed and evaluated by AI assistants, and you need to present yourself in a way that ticks the boxes that the position want to tick.
Nowadays, 95% of the job adverts don’t represent a position that will be filled. In those 5% that do, you need to make your application count. I had recruiters reach out to me for positions that I am clearly not a good fit just because my profile ticks the right boxes, and I had FANG recruiters reach out to me and let me know that they literally don’t read past the first page of a CV. To get them to pay attention, you need to make your case that you are the ideal candidate for that very specific position. Otherwise, others will.
ITT: Corporate shills.
lots of pinkertons around lately
Not really. “A year to get a job” is just not what most of us are observing for devs with 10 years of experience, so it’s natural to think something is odd here.
Just watched several friends take two+ years to get a job, with FAANG on their resume and over a decade of experience, in the US. You probably have some selection bias.
Were they self selecting by demanding insane salaries in highly competitive locations like silicon valley? Or did they broaden their search and allowed a pay cut or moving?
They were self selecting by not even catching interviews, even after using utilities to reformilate their resumes for ATS.
Possibly. Several people I know were laid off and had a job in a month… I don’t know anyone that hunted for more than a few…
Edit: I also don’t think FAANG on your resume makes you more hireable than anyone else unless maybe another FAANG? The main thing it shows is you are going to ask for more money.
In the US right now economy, I do agree that it can be a negative signal for employers when quantifying cost but, that outweighs their inherent value of prior vetting done by a major organization. However, if a candidate employee does apply for a role they are more than likely well aware of the possible salary range for the role - pending their states laws around pay range posting requirements. Companies hiring for software developers are mostly already complying with these requirments, as any survey across open roles can tell you.
s/but, that outweighs/but, that doesn’t outweigh/
How many of most of us here are black, then? Dude seems disillusioned with the corpo ballet we’re all asked to hop through because that’s the status quo. Things don’t actually have to be that way, it’s not some kind of law of nature.
Suppose if you’re happy with the status quo, then I’m glad for you. To me it still reads like corpo shillery. The devil doesn’t need an advocate.
I didn’t comment on the “corpo ballet”, but I can assure you I think it is a stupid and dehumanizing as anyone else. I’ll thank you not to put words in my mouth.
so it’s natural to think something is odd here.
I glanced over a few other blog posts from the blog. The guy is describes himself as a troublemaker and has a whole blog post on how it is hard to be nice to people.
And the guy has a track record of posting highly racist comments to boot.
This is from the last half a dozen blog posts.
Perhaps the guy is going through a mental breakdown. Perhaps not. But I’d be hard pressed to pick this guy over any other candidate.
Sauce? I read through several posts on the blog and didn’t find what you’re talking about
Sauce? I read through several posts on the blog and didn’t find what you’re talking about
You must have done a poor job reading them.
I’ll leave you with this facepalm read.
But that first half is a reminder (to myself) that not everyone deserves constant good will or benefit of the doubt. Folks like Kissinger definitely would have gleefully eradicated Haiti (if not turned into a plantation-as-country) and folks who hold offsets of his ideals do not need to be given any sort of grace.
If you think his writing is any of what you posit, then I’d recommend taking a look in the mirror to search for your humanity.
If you think his writing is any of what you posit,
It does. Most of us don’t go around writing essays rationalizing how we treat others like shit, and framing basic decency in daily interactions as “expending of energy”, and then make it believe everyone else should just be ok with this.
It’s a colossal red flag. Then the racist rants make it all the worst.
Don’t take my word for it. Perhaps take the hiring managers’ word?
Sorry I didn’t cherry pick the fifth to last essay?
This dude maybe should learn to keep his mouth shut and play the game. Delete the blog, wipe the presence, reset the online identity. Until he finds a job, he could contribute to opensource to have something to show, or retrain in some other thing like a trade job.
Being loud on the internet and showing that you can and will be a problem for the company, even if you’re fighting the good fight, will get you in trouble. Unless of course he finds a job with like-minded people.
My online identity isn’t tied to my real identity. At least, I try hard not to because otherwise I’ll have to add a disclaimer to every post “these are my views and not that of my employer”. The more you give to recruiters, the more reasons they have not to pick you. Your online presence (if any) must be the cleanest, most professional that you can manage - especially if you’re a minority.
People posting with their real names should just learn to STFU sometimes. Free speech doesn’t mean “no consequences”.
You’re getting Lemmy downvoted, but you are spot on with this. My wife has a very public facing job and she is very blunt with the things she says, I made sure all her accounts can’t be traced back to her employer. Anything she posts on her separate public accounts goes through AI first, to sanitize it. She’s not a bad person, but she doesn’t pull her punches. In person she looks like your standard severe Chinese woman, so it doesn’t bother people when she’s blunt with them.
I get the feeling this person is too idealistic to get stuff done in a real company.
They’re getting “it’s not you it’s us” again and again in an interview.
Sounds like “it’s not that your ideals are wrong, it’s that we can’t live up to your standards”.
This is not to say that Jacky should abandon his ideals, but be willing and able to realize when they have to make compromises in order to get work done.
Yeah these types of posts are kind of useless because you can never tell if it’s just because they’re giving off red flags.
What feedback did he get from interviews? Do people know you can ask for feedback?
