cross-posted from: https://piefed.zip/c/[email protected]/p/1758477/using-fascist-technology-to-fight-fascism-still-promotes-fascist-technology

Using fascist technology to fight fascism still promotes fascist technology.

  • queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    7 days ago

    Fascists don’t create, they corrupt. Technology is neither fascist nor antifascist, those labels only make sense in the context of humans.

    Be thoughtful about the services you use, the money you spend, and the data you entrust to others. Do your best to understand your tools as fully as you can. Strive to help others and do no harm, in your immediate impact and in your downstream effects. Don’t trust to heuristics like labeling certain technologies “fascist”; they are not and the more non-fascists there are who understand technology, the better equipped we will be to fight fascism.

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        6 days ago

        surveillance networks are made of computers and sensors, which are made of chips and wires. I don’t think chips and wires are fascist, I don’t think sensors and computers are fascist. I think the purpose to which they are put is the fascist part, and the purpose is pure human.

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          The individual components are no more fascist than the individual organs that put fascists together. What matters is the function of the end product. Flock cameras for example is surveillance tech and that’s their only purpose.

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      This is why I like capitalism. It turns choice into value, a vote if you will. Just needs guard rails for edge cases.

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      There are definitely fascist technologies out there, that’s why we can say don’t build the fucking torment nexus.

      Mass surveillance, torture devices, hostile architecture, the slanted toilet, the panopticon, those can only be used for evil.

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        The torment nexus isn’t a discrete thing. You can’t make thumbscrews without screws. Are the screws evil? If not, when does the composition of components become evil? I don’t think LLMs are evil for the same reason I don’t think thumbscrews are evil in and of themselves. Thumbscrews, like LLMs, lack the capacity for evil. It’s the people who turn technology against their fellow humans that I hold as my enemy, not the trappings of their mischief. Remove them from the equation, and the torment nexus becomes so much harmless scrap, ready to be beaten into plowshares.

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      Critical thinking is a rare commodity on social media. The the AI hate is basically lemmy’s version of facebooks anti-vaxxers.

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        I wonder if it isn’t at least partially a psy op. This whole business of giving anyone who even looks at an LLM a scarlet letter, and refusing to participate in any critical evaluation of LLMs or other AI tools, plays right into the hands of those who would use LLMs to pollute, isolate, and destroy the free internet. The willfully ignorant will be the easiest to trap.

        If you can read this: beware the day that internet discussions of mass manipulation go quiet. That silence is the death knell of freedom.

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          Ayup. I’ve noticed and wondered the same thing. Very logical and great ROI, it spreads itself

          And the cost is what?

          A little Thiel anti-christ buffoonery here, a little Zuck has to make a blog post about the wonders of the happy AI there?

          Their biggest issue is just self correcting the sentiment gauge for their vanity, the machinery to ensure they are the only ones who use and control the tooling with proficiency is already in place from their perspective.