• SarcasmIntended@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Tell that to every one of my installs.

    Literally every time I try a distro, I have to hope the NVIDIA drivers download and actually work. Then I have to hope the distro actually switches between it and the integrated GPU.

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      7 days ago

      uhm… you don’t have to hope…? You can literally check which driver is installed. You can even install preferable driver version via your package manager and delete mesa drivers if you don’t want your system to ever use the integrated gpu.

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        4 days ago

        Meanwhile on my Windows PC the correct Nvidia drivers always download and work right out of the box.

        For Linux that varies distro from distro.

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          well duh, of course it varies. Do you expect Windows Server to automatically install gpu drivers too? On CachyOS, EndeavorOS and Bazzite everything also works out of the box. And you don’t even need to disable one hundred and one microsoft-mandated bloatware when you install them.

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            3 days ago

            So:

            One out of ~12 windows versions not installing a driver = bad

            Only 3 Linux distros out of hundreds installing a driver = good

            Got it.

            Also damn near every Linux distro has some sort of bloatware. There’s always apps I don’t want because I won’t use them or because I prefer something else. I didn’t install them, they came with the distro. They are bloatware.

            Ubuntu comes to mind as the biggest offender.

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              One out of ~12 windows versions not installing a driver = bad Only 3 Linux distros out of hundreds installing a driver = good

              Windows server is not “one of ~12 windows versions”. It’s a windows distribution that exists in parallel with normal windows.

              IIRC, microsoft added automatic driver installation only in windows 10, so even if i indulge your sloppy attempt at drawing equivalence between major windows releases and linux distros, it’s two for three, and not in windows’ favor. Except there’s no equivalence. Windows versions exist much like any major release of any OS distribution with fixed release model.

              Imagine a distro so bad, it has no package manager (or any software version control, for the matter). It has no customization, supports only the most primitive and prehistoric file systems. It’s so bad that even the users that were conditioned to use it prefer to stay on a decade old releases of it because the newer ones are just that much worse. Actually, you don’t have to imagine, because that’s just windows. The only advantage windows has is it’s desktop market share, but even that’s slowly diminishing lately.

              Also damn near every Linux distro has some sort of bloatware. There’s always apps I don’t want because I won’t use them or because I prefer something else.

              Guess what? Unlike in Windows, you can delete all of it, just like literally any other program that you have installed. You don’t want it to be installed in the first place? Boy, do i have news for you, because Arch, minimal NixOS or even Gentoo exist just for you!

              That’s the beauty of Linux, and FOSS in general. It gives you freedom. Windows only takes it, more and more. Each year windows gets slightly worse. Each year linux gets slightly better.

              Ubuntu comes to mind as the biggest offender.

              Preinstalled software suite is not even in top 10 of the things that are wrong with ubuntu. It’s just a bad distro. I’ll tell you more, despite whatever people are saying, Debian and all of its derivatives in general are quite less than ideal for your average desktop PC user.