• SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip
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    2 days ago

    Here’s something I’ve wondered about for a while now: Why do some voters have to be assiduously courted, and it’s a failure of the candidate if she doesn’t win them over, while for other voters the blame falls on the voters if they don’t fall in line and vote for the candidate?

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      Why do some voters have to be assiduously courted

      Because they’re children trapped in adult bodies and want what they want, when they want it, or they’re going to throw a fit and it’s someone else’s fault.

      It was a prosecutor that ran on inclusion for a party that supports social programs and is better for our economy vs a felon rapist pedophile traitor who only talks about himself running for a party that kills social programs and regularly violates our Constitutional rights and a TON of grown ass adults said “I’m not going to vote or I’m going to vote for a 3rd party candidate with no path to victory unless Kamala speaks to me personally”.

      Like, how fucking dumb can people be? You’d be lucky if ONE presidential candidate truly spoke to you during your entire fucking life. Grow up. Make smart decisions whether they’re exactly to your liking or not.

      I’ve spent over 4 decades in this country and I can tell you that there is a BIG problem with adults not acting like adults. And that’s a big reason why we are where we are.

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          Yeah, well, you’ve gotta be pretty dumb to be a centrist in this climate. Centrism is for political times that aren’t this fucked. Riding the fence doesn’t fix anything in the situation we find ourselves in.

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      Why do some voters have to be assiduously courted, and it’s a failure of the candidate if she doesn’t win them over

      Because that’s literally the job of a politician running for office.

      for other voters the blame falls on the voters if they don’t fall in line and vote for the candidate?

      Because of tribalist authoritarianism and gaslighting.

      It’s much easier to get away with ignoring the wants and needs of your constituency when you convince them that it’s about teams, not policies.

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        It’s much easier to get away with ignoring the wants and needs of your constituency when you convince them that it’s about teams, not policies.

        This right here.

        Mine was a loaded question. After decades of this stuff, it’s entirely clear to me that the difference is that Democrats do not have policy to offer many voters, so all that they have to fall back on is team boosterism. If Harris did have something substantive to offer these Michigan voters, she and her supporters would’ve offered it.

        But they didn’t, so all that they had left is what we see: Blame and derision.

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        The truth is… it’s a popularity contest at the heart of it. Always has been. If you aren’t popular enough in the zeitgeist of enough people, then you ain’t winning shit.

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        Because that’s literally the job of a politician running for office.

        And it’s the job of American voters to make educated decisions even if those decisions aren’t exactly to their liking. Adults shouldn’t need to have their hands held. Adults should be able to look objectively at two choices and determine which one is best, regardless of what the person selling themselves to you is saying in their ads.

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      The nice thing about blame is it’s an infinite resource. We can always make more of it. That’s why I blame the politicians and the voters.