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      Technically it was the Free Software movement that was a form of Leftism, and Open Source was Capitalism’s attempt to subsume it once it became apparent that it was capable of producing better software.

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    Where is the third thing? Open source software is left wing ffs. Proprietary software is extremely capitalist/fascist.

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      You say that as if we don’t continually discover right wingers, fascists, religious bigots, and conspiracy theorists within the community.

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        You’ll find plenty of bigots and conspiracy theorists in unions, too. Union activity is still left-wing activity.

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          Fascists and right wingers too?

          There are features of Open Source that clearly appeal to several kinds of right wing brain.

          In general the far right is also a counter-culture, that benefits from all the kinds of freedoms that the left does.

          You want privacy so government doesn’t come for the immigrants, they want privacy so the government doesn’t come for their guns.

          You want encryption so the corpos don’t see you unionizing, they want encryption so the cops don’t see them organizing a coup.

          You want free speech because information on gender and orientation is not scandalous and dangerous, they want free speech to discuss the proper place of brown people.

          You don’t want to use mainstream tech because it’s awful, exploitative and plutocratic, they don’t want to use it because it’s clearly an arm of the jewish deep state.

          And let’s not even get into the whole crypto thing. Largely open source, but largely appealing to ancaps and other such funny beasts.

          You’ll find plenty of bigots and conspiracy theorists in unions, too.

          Yes but the conspiracies tend to be different.

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            Fascists and right wingers too?

            Probably. Certainly republicans, so fascism isn’t a deal-breaker for them.

            the conspiracies tend to be different

            Plenty of union members believe in the “jewish deep state”, e.g., so I don’t think the conspiracies are that different.


            I agree that freedoms can be abused. And, they can certainly be used for right-wing purposes. I also agree that there are plenty of fallacious arguments for freedom, some of which are based on conspiratorial thinking. But, fighting for freedoms of the people and restrictions on the state is always a left-wing activity.

            That said, I don’t know where the balance is or should be between solidarity and rejecting intolerance. At the moment, I’m more in favor of protecting marginalized persons by aggressively excluding intolerant people, particularly if their intolerant behavior is well-documented and they still refuse to reject and remediate it. So, I do see the fascists in open source as a problem.

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      All Open Source / Free Software is building the commons. Strong copyleft is using the weapons of the state to help the commons stay under collective ownership.

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    Jesus if he was here today: You’re telling me you’re pursuing wealth and getting divorced? Time to flip some more tables…

    Also, if you go by just the “red letters”: WTF, why are you eating shellfish and mixing textiles?

    He was a Judean from the first century AD, and held a mix of ideas that nobody really does anymore.

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    Jesus would have been too addicted to foot fetish pics online to have any real opinions.

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    Do you think modern-day American Jesus’s dad would be a software programer instead of a carpenter?

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      Maybe a mechanic. It was a humble, low-education kind of job, but still a step up from working the fields. Actually, I guess it could still be construction.

      (And FWIW, the original Aramaic word applies to both stone and wood workers, and there weren’t a lot of trees in the Nazereth area)

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    sometimes i wonder if jesus today would ask himself if he’d really seen every sin in hell