Four years after Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the Russian economy is showing clear signs of structural exhaustion. The contours of a genuine economic endgame are coming into view for Russia. This is the finding of a new Kiel Report published by the Kiel Institute for the World Economy and the Stockholm Institute of Transition Economics.
So you think that is supposed to be the end goal? Maybe you can think juuust 1 step further.
Then who were you replying to? God? Santa? Why should I be the one to ask whether Ukrainians prefer no sanctions?
I said they’re ramping up ballistic missile attacks, which they are. I said nothing about the front, drone attacks or whatever. The point was that they still have plenty of production capabilities to ramp these up despite all these sanctions and years of costly war. And supposedly having hit their limit, which is what we’ve been hearing for years now. So yeah, I don’t believe the boy who cried wolf this time. F me right?
When the f did I say I was “just asking questions”? That’s the second straw man you made in two comments. You really couldn’t recognize a bad faith argument if it hit you in the face because they are all you’ve got.
No, I made a statement. There was no question mark at the end. You chose to respond to that with a load of nonsense that shows you don’t understand an iota of this conflict and act like your shitty opinion is truth.
Again “just asking questions”. If you want to make a point. Fucking make it. Fuck off with this “just asking questions” bullshit.
And yes, weakening Russia’s war making capabilities is the fucking end goal.
Europe was perfectly happy with Russia having a strong economy to buy European goods and sell them cheap gas. There is no other end goal.
Yeah, completely ignoring the fact that they’d be able to produce much more without the sanctions. Also why are cruise missile attacks dropping? Maybe because they can’t keep up production because of sanctions? funny that.
According to whom?
The only quote you made was Von der Leyen, who didn’t fucking say that, did she?
No we haven’t.
If you hear “wolf” when people say something else, that’s on you.
A comment with nothing but questions you know the answer to but imply the answer is something else. That is exactly the definition of “just asking questions”. And you do it in other places as well.
Not a statement, is it?
May I remind you of your first comment on this thread?
And again, I’m not just asking questions and I never claimed that. Questions are a normal part of life, get used to it.
You know the end goal is to stop the war. That hasn’t happened. I’m asking you questions because you’re dancing around that disingenuously. The end goal cannot be to continue the war but at a lower pace and you know it.
Cruise missile attacks are dropping because they’re much easier to take down than ballistic missiles.
And you’re making it (again, disingenuously) seem like I said the sanctions aren’t having any effects. That is not what I said and you also know it. I said that despite the sanctions they are still ramping up ballistic missile attacks. So the message that they have hit their war economy limits is false. Since once you hit your limit –that’s what a limit means– you can’t continue.
They have not stopped, ergo they have not reached the limit.
Really? You can’t even read the headline of the article this thread is under. How am I supposed to take you seriously?
Here are a whole bunch of people claiming exactly that:
https://www.russiamatters.org/node/35164
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/currencies/russia-economy-worsens-current-account-ruble-energy-exports-2023-7
https://www.chathamhouse.org/2025/09/fortress-russia-economy-has-adapted-well-pressure-stagflation-presents-opportunity-west
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2026/feb/06/the-russian-economy-is-finally-stagnating-what-does-it-mean-for-the-war-and-for-putin
I’m beginning to think you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about…
Not the comment you initially replied to, is it? Disingenuous #3
But good talk my man. Keep it up and nobody will ever want to talk to you.
No they don’t, have you even read those articles?
They make claims that are completely factual.
The original comment I replied to had a quote of Von der Leyen that you implied was making claims it didn’t.
And you keep implying that sanctions aren’t having the effect of bringing that end sooner, which they do.
You cannot possibly know if they’ve hit their limits because you can’t see the future. So you cannot say that this message is false.
You keep saying that people have made that claim before, and it was false then, so it must be false now. But as your own sources show, nobody made this claim before.