++Sky News++ captured his words, as he explained: “”Yes, I asked for a review by FIFA. I spoke to a man [Infantino] who is highly respected. I’m the one who got them to do it, not Biden. Biden was asleep.”

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    As an American Tottenham fan I am over the moon with how Poch has transformed Team USA and I was so ready to watch them beat Belgium without one of their best players.

    Now it just looks stupid, like no one believes they could do it without this one guy. On top of the optics of it now Belgium has an extra reason to fight, it will absolutly light a fire under them. Was it a red card? No, it should have been a yellow but that’s the game. You put the chip on your shoulder and go out there and fuck shit up. Now Belgium has the chip.

    Just another example of the whining bitch culture the US has become under trump, the biggest thin skinned bitch of them all.

    Norway is on form and are going to give England a great run and France are going to be hard to beat. People have been dogging this WC but honestly its been entertaining. The officiating has been half trash but the games have mostly been lit and the upsets have been great.

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      It was a red. It was dangerous and could have broken his ankle, even if he didn’t intend it.

      Belgium are crap, but would have comfortably beaten USA.

      No one believes you can do it without that one guy before this. He’s been carrying you.

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        They shouldn’t have fucked with the ruling at all, but lmao at “dangerous”

        It could only possibly be considered dangerous if you thought he intentionally stepped on Muharemović’s ankle. Straight reds are typically reserved for aggressive plays that are either clearly malicious or willfully reckless.

        Balogun was playing the ball without looking where he was stepping - at worst it should have been a yellow. Careless? Definitely. Dangerous? Lmao, I guess taking a reaching step is dangerous now

        But thats really not the problem anymore - the league overriding the decision reaks of corruption and does a disservice to everyone involved, including the USA team.

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          You obviously don’t know enough about “soccer”. You been listening to your presidents definitions?

          A red can be given for serious foul play.

          “Serious foul play is defined as “a tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality.””

          It fits the definition. Even with FIFA suspended the sentence they didn’t overturn it.

          Quansah got a red card for England despite playing for and winning the ball. Intent is not the key ingredient of a red card.

          Either way, Belgium’s hammered the USA even with Balogun. Tis a lol.

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            Either way, Belgium’s hammered the USA even with Balogun. Tis a lol.

            No question - they shouldn’t have even made it that far

            A red can be given for serious foul play.

            The ref is intentionally given leeway to make whatever calls necessary to keep control over the game (which is why the reversal is so damaging to the tournament broadly). He had every right to send Balogun off, I just dont think it’s was a good one.

            Quansah got a red card for England despite playing for and winning the ball

            A bunch of reasons why this comparison is bullshit:

            • Quansah went into a sliding tackle against a player in control of the play, not after a 50/50 challenge
            • despite there not being intent, sliding tackles are held to higher scrutiny because they’re dangerous even when done correctly
            • The tackle was unnecessarily aggressive. Quansah could have stayed on his feet and defended without risking a tackle

            You obviously don’t know enough about “soccer”. You been listening to your presidents definitions?

            I love how catty this is

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              A ref is given leeway, they choose whether to exercise or not and he didn’t provide any leeway or special favour. He made a call and refs decision stands.

              It still amazes me that you don’t see how dangerous Balogun’s challenge was. Did you not see the dude’s ankle? Could have got broken. Quansah didn’t even touch the guy with studs and won the ball. It was still a red. Both without intent, both deemed dangerous. One almost snapped a players ankle.

              Yes, that last bit was catty, but the weird tribal defending of it it with weird justifications seemed to fit in with how Trumpy was arguing. Not necessarily within the rules of the game or historical precedents.

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                It still amazes me that you don’t see how dangerous Balogun’s challenge was. Did you not see the dude’s ankle? Could have got broken

                I don’t think we’re using ‘dangerous’ in the same way here. I’m saying there is no reasonable expectation that Balogun’s play could have resulted in a serious injury, regardless of what injury almost did occur. Just because Muharemovic’s ankle almost did get broken, doesn’t mean that was due to any risky, aggressive, or malicious move made by Balogun to begin with. That the foul didn’t even initially merit a yellowcard at the time points to the same conclusion.

                When I was taught to be a referee (granted, that was 15 years ago), they urged us not to issue red cards unless the play itself was uniquely dangerous, where that if another player committed the same foul there would be the same high risk of injury. The two other remedies for keeping this type of play in-check are more reasonable and less likely to cause chaotic discontent from the bench, and sending the player off doesn’t make anyone else on the field any safer.

                Your job as referee isn’t to doll out justice or retribution for harm committed on the field, it’s to keep the players safe and the game fair to the extent reasonable.

                Quansah didn’t even touch the guy with studs and won the ball.

                That’s not the point - he made a needlessly aggressive tackle against an attacker that wasn’t an immediate threat on goal, and hit Gallardo midway up the shin with studs up. If someone else on the field made a similarly needless and dangerous tackle, the risk of serious injury would be just as high. It could have just as easily been a yellow card, but what made the tackle worse was that it was done without any apparent strategic advantage over staying on his feet, which made it seem like he did it in part because there was a risk of harm.

                If the ref didn’t take action, it was likely that the two would continue escalating their challenges until someone did get injured

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      I agree with. I just want to say you’re delusional to think the US could beat Belgium with or without this player.

      Edit - I see the Americunts are voting with their feelings again

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        We will see.

        Edit: welp, they looked like shit. Belgium played better than they have all tournament. Belgium came out with the chip square on their shoulder and USA shit the bed. I was wrong, oh well.