Which is which? Palestinians didn’t exist as a nation (it was “the region of Palestine”, not a country) until the exact same UN resolution that created Israel. Which, fun fact, does have historical records of existence in the region… So? Which ones are the settlers?
Let me get this straight - a nation gets kicked out of their homeland, they become, effectively, wanderers, they travel through the ages through the entirety of Europe always believing they will one day return home, but… since it’s been however many generations, they now no longer have the right to return?
What’s the cut-off number of generations where you can no longer call something your home, when your ancestors were forcefully kicked out?
(also, we’re conveniently forgetting about the 100-300k Israelis/Jews that remained in current-day Israel and the Region of Palestine throughout those generations, I’m just wondering what’s your take on the right to live in a place)
So now they have the right to displace the people who are living there, genocide them.
What’s the cut-off number of generations where you can no longer call something your home, when your ancestors were forcefully kicked out?
So by your logic, US should give the land back to the native Americans. Or does might makes right.
also, we’re conveniently forgetting about the 100-300k Israelis/Jews that remained in current-day Israel and the Region of Palestine throughout those generations
They are not the genocidal maniacs. They have right to stay just as the Palestinians.
So now they have the right to displace the people who are living there
They started off fully mixed, but that didn’t work, and both parties involved are to blame here. The clear solution was to separate them, yes.
genocide them
No. Where did that come from…?
So by your logic, US should give the land back to the native Americans. Or does might makes right.
See, that’s the thing - by my logic, all the “historically this land was XYZ” is bullshit, and the only actual right to hold land comes from either diplomatic or military power. That’s how it always worked throughout history and only nationalist/genocidal maniacs ever talk about “historical rights”, everyone else just moves on.
Palestine AND Israel have the right to their own nation, and they both managed to achieve that through diplomacy. Later, Israel kept its land through military power, even when attacked by literally every country it shared borders with.
They are not the genocidal maniacs. They have right to stay just as the Palestinians
You might be surprised, but most Israelis aren’t. In fact, most Israelis want to get rid of Netanyahu and his clique.
Agreed the claim of Europeans on land of Palestine is bullshit.
Who are you replying to? This is basically the exact opposite of what I wrote.
Zionists achieved the land by force and have only expanded like a cancer.
First gained by diplomacy, then by force. Unless you can kick them out (you can’t) there’s nothing you can do about it.
Two methods of handling the situation: the Palestinian method (“let’s chuck rockets at them non-stop, and then cry when they retaliate with overwhelming force”) or the Egyptian and Jordanian method (“fuck it, let’s just have civil relations, verging on an alliance”).
You people keep saying that it’s impossible to have peace with Israel - Jordan and Egypt seem to disagree. Shit, Jordan was actively shooting down Iranian missiles when Israel was under attack!
I don’t think 35% of the population would be considered as most.
Yeah, if you take statistics about something completely different than what we’re talking about, you can get that kind of number, true. Here’s something relevant, however: Likud has around 20% in election polls.
One is a nation other is a settler colony.
Which is which? Palestinians didn’t exist as a nation (it was “the region of Palestine”, not a country) until the exact same UN resolution that created Israel. Which, fun fact, does have historical records of existence in the region… So? Which ones are the settlers?
European Jews are the settlers.
Let me get this straight - a nation gets kicked out of their homeland, they become, effectively, wanderers, they travel through the ages through the entirety of Europe always believing they will one day return home, but… since it’s been however many generations, they now no longer have the right to return?
What’s the cut-off number of generations where you can no longer call something your home, when your ancestors were forcefully kicked out?
(also, we’re conveniently forgetting about the 100-300k Israelis/Jews that remained in current-day Israel and the Region of Palestine throughout those generations, I’m just wondering what’s your take on the right to live in a place)
So now they have the right to displace the people who are living there, genocide them.
So by your logic, US should give the land back to the native Americans. Or does might makes right.
They are not the genocidal maniacs. They have right to stay just as the Palestinians.
They started off fully mixed, but that didn’t work, and both parties involved are to blame here. The clear solution was to separate them, yes.
No. Where did that come from…?
See, that’s the thing - by my logic, all the “historically this land was XYZ” is bullshit, and the only actual right to hold land comes from either diplomatic or military power. That’s how it always worked throughout history and only nationalist/genocidal maniacs ever talk about “historical rights”, everyone else just moves on.
Palestine AND Israel have the right to their own nation, and they both managed to achieve that through diplomacy. Later, Israel kept its land through military power, even when attacked by literally every country it shared borders with.
You might be surprised, but most Israelis aren’t. In fact, most Israelis want to get rid of Netanyahu and his clique.
Agreed the claim of Europeans on land of Palestine is bullshit. Zionists achieved the land by force and have only expanded like a cancer.
I don’t think 35% of the population would be considered as most.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-10/ty-article/.premium/64-of-israelis-see-no-need-for-more-reporting-on-gazans-sufferings/00000197-59e8-deed-a9bf-5def9d770000
Who are you replying to? This is basically the exact opposite of what I wrote.
First gained by diplomacy, then by force. Unless you can kick them out (you can’t) there’s nothing you can do about it.
Two methods of handling the situation: the Palestinian method (“let’s chuck rockets at them non-stop, and then cry when they retaliate with overwhelming force”) or the Egyptian and Jordanian method (“fuck it, let’s just have civil relations, verging on an alliance”).
You people keep saying that it’s impossible to have peace with Israel - Jordan and Egypt seem to disagree. Shit, Jordan was actively shooting down Iranian missiles when Israel was under attack!
Yeah, if you take statistics about something completely different than what we’re talking about, you can get that kind of number, true. Here’s something relevant, however: Likud has around 20% in election polls.
That is the only claim European Jews have on the land of Palestine.