• tea@lemmy.today
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    4 days ago

    I’m not one to say we need hellish prison conditions to really punish inmates. I’m all for treating inmates humanely, but the least we could do is be consistent about it, right?

    If this is the standard of inmate handling, fine. If there is a disparity of how Maxwell is treated vs how another person might be treated for a similar security level, as what seems to be the case here…that’s a big problem and is rightly being scrutinized.

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      4 days ago

      This is America, how dare you say we deserve equality? The experience needs to vary drastically between the castes economic classes to show how much better they are to those uppity poors. We have 1st class plane tickets to flex their money so why not 1st class prison too?

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      I’m all for treating inmates humanely, but the least we could do is be consistent about it, right?

      I’m all for making prisons better. I’m really tired of nutpicking the worst criminal you can find and declaring “This person should be getting tetnus every time they use the toilet”.

      If there is a disparity of how Maxwell is treated vs how another person might be treated for a similar security level, as what seems to be the case here

      Federal prisons are historically better managed and run than state and local prisons because

      (a) Feds maintain a significantly smaller inmate population, so there’s a lower instance of overcrowding and fewer facilities to manage. The funding per-capita is higher, which affords individual inmates better living conditions and more amenities.

      (b) Federal prisons tend to hold more white-collar criminals who can also afford the kind of legal counsel that both discourages the abuses common to state and local prisons and fast-tracks them for early release on good behavior. The end result is a population that is both treated well and well-behaved, leading to fewer instances of the kind of prison violence we glamorize on TV and in the movies.

      © Federal inmates tend to be older, resulting in the needs of the prisons being different - more services for geriatric patients, fewer needs for restraints or restrictions on activity.

      This isn’t a situation unique to Ghislaine. It’s more a throw-back to how prisoned used to operate prior to the Reagan Era of mass incarceration and budget cutting. There are definitely more modern prisons that are geared towards immiseration (Guantanamo Bay, Alligator Alcatraz). But they cut across all of the above - cheap, shoddy construction and overcrowded facilities, more poor families and migrants without access to legal counsel, more young people who are considered a higher flight/fight risk.

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      4 days ago

      There is a difference in security level. A violent, uncontrollable person cannot be afforded the same flexibility as a nonviolent, compliant prisoner.

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          3 days ago

          I am not saying all, only some. A rich, well-connected, but psychopathically violent prisoner would not be in club fed.

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            3 days ago

            I thinks you’ve missed the point entirely.

            The original commenter wasn’t talking about the disparity of treatment of prisoners that are well connected and rich. They were talking about the disparity of treatment between well connected/rich prisoners and prisoners that aren’t well connected/rich.

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            3 days ago

            Everyone with a healthy perspective here are questioning the sanity of a brown person who committed no crime other than being brown being killed by ICE and Ghislaine, who committed and facilitated child rape and torture for a honeypot for the world elite to be treated like a low security nonviolent offender.

            Do better.

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    3 days ago

    Oh my God, who cares what her prison conditions are like? She’s still in prison.

    Anyone who has done time will tell you: time is time.

    All I care about is that she’s no longer in society. She was selling children to politicians for sexual exploitation. How she spends her time in prison is not something I’m interested in at all.