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    12 hours ago

    Translation: he’s waiting to see if their efforts to undermine the midterms are successful so that they might be able to steal the 2028 presidential election.

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        Naw man, Trump opened up with a racist and controversial speech. He had an immediate following and cult formation very early on.

        Vance has been around for a while. No one likes him and every attempt he makes backfires spectacularly.

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            ‘Bestselling book’ is a title that can easily be bought. All you have to do is have a shell company (or a friendly billionaire) buy 10,000 copies of your own book, and now it’s a ‘bestseller’.

            I don’t know about the Oscar nomination, but I suspect it’s a similar deal. Put enough money in the right pockets, and I bet you can buy an Oscar nomination.

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              Oscars can be manipulated but also they are broken up into categories and don’t necessarily reflect popularity. For example you can have a complete shitter of a movie but still get say best music, best set, or best editing. A good example of something like this is that boring ass Mel Gibson mailman movie, which IMO actually has pretty decent costumes and set design hell the story isn’t even that bad it’s just something went wrong and it came out boring, don’t know if it got any awards just using a mid movie as an example.

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      There is a 0% chance they’ll make it through a primary. Just like Harris became Bidens’ running mate through transactional politics, so to did Vance become Trumps, excepting that Vance was a net negative to the Trump campaign. Trump didn’t bring on Vance because he needed Vance’s charisma is a bit of an understatement.

      Now they’ll be saddled with all the unpopularity which will come from the unpopularity of Trump 2.0 (who is deeply underwater with pretty much everyone).

      Just like Harris would have never made it through a 2024 primary, neither would Vance through a 2028 primary, with one notable exception, which is the case that Trump dies in office. That could change things. But with the current layout of the board and where things are coming and going, put a bet down against Vance.

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        I honestly think dumpy’s handlers would go that route if they thought they would lose control, and by doing so would retain it through little jimmy and his couch collection.

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        Yeah, Vance is not gonna grab MAGA after Trump is gone. He’s neither charismatic or extreme enough for it. I am expecting MAGA to put out their own candidate that will somehow be worse than Trump.

        Also Vance saying he’s gonna wait until after midterms is him waiting to see how much the GOP will get fucked or not. If there is a blue wave in the midterms he may not want to throw his hat in the ring and just get humiliated if that wave keeps the momentum going until the presidential elections.

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          I am expecting MAGA to put out their own candidate that will somehow be worse than Trump.

          If Trump doesn’t explicitly name an heir, it will be half a dozen different figures vying to replace him, all of them tearing at each other’s throats as they do. It might be enough to tear their support base to pieces as well, with loyalists of one faction unwilling to ever support the head of a different faction, even after the outcome becomes clear.

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            Also there’s the factor being forgotten, Trump invigorated a largely inactive section of the population who will almost certainly go back to being inactive at least in part once he is either dead or indisposed. No way in hell is Vance keeping those people active.

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            Yeah. Though who would Trump even name as an heir? I think he hates Vance so I don’t think it will be him. One of his kids? None of them really strike me as able to take over.

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              Given his selfishness, if he did name an heir, it would either be one of his kids (so he can continue to see his name on things) or it would be someone he thought he could exert complete control over and basically stay in power with them as a puppet.

              (And for the latter purpose, someone obscure, currently barely known would be ideal, someone who owes everything to Trump and has no independent base of their own. But also needs to be somebody with deep financial ties to the Trump family and a lot of debts to be paid off. Oh, and preferably also involved in the whole Epstein situation, to help control them through blackmail.)

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        apparently that’s what happened with Teddy Roosevelt. party leadership didn’t like him as the governor of New York because he was too progressive, so they “promoted” him to McKinley’s VP, a position where he would have less influence. but then someone shot McKinley, and suddenly Roosevelt had a lot of influence