Why is it that people who present themselves as morally superior often seem the least willing to forgive? Some would rather support establishment figures like Susan Collins or Janet Mills, politicians they view as helping sustain the policies and military interventions that created the problem in the first place, than support a former mercenary who ultimately turned against that system. It seems strange to condemn someone for what they once were while giving a pass to the institutions and leaders that continue to benefit from the same machinery.
That type of behavior benefits the Jeffrey Epstein Class. When the hell will we ever get shit done, if you cannot forgive or accept the people that are closest to the core of the system and have decided to help us? All you have to do is keep an eye on them. I’m not saying you should “blindly” support Platner, you should watch every single one of his moves to confirm he didn’t lie. Zohran Mandami has delivered so far, and people had a similar level of skepticism, but it was worse, because they hated him for being muslim, so.
If their only argument is the Nazi tattoo, that’s sad. It’s a very silly one. The point is that you genuinely think people can’t change, and that is really dangerous. And no, I’d not have these standards for people like Trump or similar, because they are already very old and adamant about who they truly are. Platner was a victim of this system, American Exceptionalism (which is still very prevalent here in Lemmy) and American Imperialism propaganda, and at least he is teaching all those around him to wake up so far. I prefer that over the other choices, why won’t other people?
Because the GOP likes to run Republicans as Democrats, I absolutely judge a book by its cover. He has a history of controversy aside from the Nazi tattoo. If Platner wins, I wanna revisit this comment in a few years to see if another Fetterman was born.
This. It’s this simple. Fool me once… shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me every election…? Now come on that seems like some people are in on something…
This isn’t my fight, but Dems in Maine couldn’t do better than a guy with a Nazi tattoo? Says a fucking lot.
Yeah he didn’t pull a gun on a jogger, he did it the right way, four tours bombing neighborhoods in Iraq and Afghanistan, and then signed up to do it for profit under a private company. Much better.
Fetterman had a stroke and the Establishment dems still decided to run him instead of literally anyone else.
Fetterman isn’t progressive populist’s baggage, he is the Establishment’s fault. This comparison is a non-sequitur every time it is brought up in relation to Graham.
All this tells us is that you have no regard for the importance of history. This is like the 3rd most popular nazi symbol behind the swastika and the double S. You should read more.
And “well if I had a tattoo, I’d figure out its meaning”. It’s not an esoteric mystical design. Why would you ever think it had a special meaning? It’s a skull and crossbones.
I did not know about this specific SS department. But I was well aware of a general fact that Nazis wore skulls like that on their uniforms since I was a teenager, and I’m surprised to hear anyone had never heard this.
I would think 95 people out of 100 could very easily pick a Nazi uniform skull out of a lineup of other skulls, and I am really surprised that you are so surprised.
And none of that proves a 20-something kid had any idea what the fuck that was. Why would you? It’s not a Nazi emblem. It doesn’t look like anything out of a history book or a fucking Nazi documentary.
But by all means, continue to be a ridiculous pedant about shit that does not matter.
If you honestly are concerned about this, you’re a fucking ridiculous person and we don’t need to listen to you.
I guess some people believe the US can become a social democrat country the day after the next midterms, and won’t settle for less than perfect candidates.
I’ve said this elsewhere, but if the left is so obsessed with purity tests, fascism will win. Your in the US for crisssake, don’t be too picky choosing your allies…
He’s way more dangerous to them than Bernie or Warren, because if Platner wins in purple Maine their whole excuse for running bland centrists will be shown to be a lie.
Exactly. This is exactly what I mean: people like you.
If that was a comment he made out of anger, I am more disappointed in you, for not being able to or at least try to see why he said that. You’re the kind of destructive person who rather forget than forgive.
This is the same shit MAGAs do to Muslims/Arabs. They all think they hate the USA “for no good reason / because it is ingrained in them / it is genetic / they get taught as children to hate the USA” but they always gloss over, ignore or skip the “why,” or don’t do justice to the truth.
He obviously does not want that, dude. If anything, you are only showing me why he probably said that, and it’s because you keep disappointing Humanity with your racism, your excessive narcissism and the moral purity tests you do on everyone… I have personally said much WORSE, because I keep seeing my family die thanks to USA’s influence on Mexico and also the Middle East. My grand-grandpa was a Lebanese who escaped to Mexico, because Lebanon was being shelled by Israel and the USA a century ago. Now, in Mexico, we have a War on Drugs that kills 30,000 of us every year; a war on drugs that was forced upon us by Reagan and Nixon, and now the cartel is armed to the teeth with American weapons, our army isn’t, oddly enough, and their most profittable customer is the USA. It keeps us in fear, poor, terrorized, which makes us work for you for low wages, aka cheap labor for you, hence the reason you have us like this with a smile on your face.
And then I see you elect Trump twice, and self-called liberals like you commenting shit like this instead of focusing on the important stuff… Yeah, no. You lack passion and conviction for what you believe.
By the way, if you’re American, you paid for all that with your taxes (and if you’re not, you did it with your words), and you probably still do. You’re the one actually killing your own civilians, even if non-American. This system is global. It’s ironic, you probably can’t see it yet, but it is what it is. Stop looking sideways, look up.
Why is it that people who present themselves as morally superior often seem the least willing to forgive? Some would rather support establishment figures like Susan Collins or Janet Mills, politicians they view as helping sustain the policies and military interventions that created the problem in the first place, than support a former mercenary who ultimately turned against that system. It seems strange to condemn someone for what they once were while giving a pass to the institutions and leaders that continue to benefit from the same machinery.
That type of behavior benefits the Jeffrey Epstein Class. When the hell will we ever get shit done, if you cannot forgive or accept the people that are closest to the core of the system and have decided to help us? All you have to do is keep an eye on them. I’m not saying you should “blindly” support Platner, you should watch every single one of his moves to confirm he didn’t lie. Zohran Mandami has delivered so far, and people had a similar level of skepticism, but it was worse, because they hated him for being muslim, so.
If their only argument is the Nazi tattoo, that’s sad. It’s a very silly one. The point is that you genuinely think people can’t change, and that is really dangerous. And no, I’d not have these standards for people like Trump or similar, because they are already very old and adamant about who they truly are. Platner was a victim of this system, American Exceptionalism (which is still very prevalent here in Lemmy) and American Imperialism propaganda, and at least he is teaching all those around him to wake up so far. I prefer that over the other choices, why won’t other people?
Because the GOP likes to run Republicans as Democrats, I absolutely judge a book by its cover. He has a history of controversy aside from the Nazi tattoo. If Platner wins, I wanna revisit this comment in a few years to see if another Fetterman was born.
This. It’s this simple. Fool me once… shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me every election…? Now come on that seems like some people are in on something…
This isn’t my fight, but Dems in Maine couldn’t do better than a guy with a Nazi tattoo? Says a fucking lot.
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Yeah he didn’t pull a gun on a jogger, he did it the right way, four tours bombing neighborhoods in Iraq and Afghanistan, and then signed up to do it for profit under a private company. Much better.
Platner is literally a trust fund wanna be tough guy
And you’re a keyboard warrior sticking up for Susan fucking Collins and her weapons-dealing husband.
I know which is worse and it’s you!
I’ve never advocated or stuck up for this person in my life.
Fetterman had a stroke and the Establishment dems still decided to run him instead of literally anyone else.
Fetterman isn’t progressive populist’s baggage, he is the Establishment’s fault. This comparison is a non-sequitur every time it is brought up in relation to Graham.
Except it isn’t a Nazi tattoo and you literally can’t cite anything that actually happened and actually means something.
You are literally parroting right-wing propaganda, ya fuckin potato.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-Totenkopfverbände?wprov=sfti1
You didn’t even know what that even was until a few months ago.
Really telling on yourself with this one. Do you morons not learn about Nazis in school?
That’s how you know these “outraged” guys are full of shit.
Fuckers couldn’t have identified the problem tattoo out of a multiple choice exam, but they’re BIG MAD with their dumb fucking feelings about it now.
All this tells us is that you have no regard for the importance of history. This is like the 3rd most popular nazi symbol behind the swastika and the double S. You should read more.
And “well if I had a tattoo, I’d figure out its meaning”. It’s not an esoteric mystical design. Why would you ever think it had a special meaning? It’s a skull and crossbones.
I did not know about this specific SS department. But I was well aware of a general fact that Nazis wore skulls like that on their uniforms since I was a teenager, and I’m surprised to hear anyone had never heard this.
The US military and police force wears skulls. Skulls iconography is commonplace in military forces around the world.
Around the world, lol?
LOL get the fuck out of here.
You know damn well you wouldn’t have picked that tattoo out of a lineup, and now you’re pretending you’re some fucking expert on Nazi iconography?
Good lord. Go be a Republican if you’re going to be this way. We don’t need you.
I would think 95 people out of 100 could very easily pick a Nazi uniform skull out of a lineup of other skulls, and I am really surprised that you are so surprised.
That’s because you’re lying.
https://notoleranceforantisemitism.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/totenkopf
Bystander here, adl is not a good source.
And none of that proves a 20-something kid had any idea what the fuck that was. Why would you? It’s not a Nazi emblem. It doesn’t look like anything out of a history book or a fucking Nazi documentary.
But by all means, continue to be a ridiculous pedant about shit that does not matter.
If you honestly are concerned about this, you’re a fucking ridiculous person and we don’t need to listen to you.
Please learn how to comminicate without so much hostility when none was directed at you.
“Please be less hostile as I slander and libel a politician because years ago, he got a tattoo that even I wouldn’t have recognized as a problem”
I mean Christ, how about you stop slandering good people over shit you just learned was a problem like five minutes ago?
I didnt learn he was employed by blackwater 5 minutes ago.
“good people”
(In response to a high school student asking why people joined the marines; likely a target of the US military’s child grooming)
I’d rather have 100 of him over any of you lying, lazy bastards.
And I don’t really give a shit about the opinion of a literal Chinese propagandist. GTFO here with that.
I don’t say this lightly, but are you removed?
I guess some people believe the US can become a social democrat country the day after the next midterms, and won’t settle for less than perfect candidates.
I’ve said this elsewhere, but if the left is so obsessed with purity tests, fascism will win. Your in the US for crisssake, don’t be too picky choosing your allies…
Do better with your candidates. You should feel ashamed to lose to Donald fucking Trump.
This is the better candidate. Of the options, he was the one saying “tax the ritch”, “Israel is committing genocide” and “Medicare for all”.
Both centrists democrats and republicans are terrified of him and digging up anything they can and running disinfo campaigns to discredit him.
He’s way more dangerous to them than Bernie or Warren, because if Platner wins in purple Maine their whole excuse for running bland centrists will be shown to be a lie.
Certainly can’t complain considering the alternative…but it doesn’t matter, I don’t live in Maine
I read this comment too fast and thought it said, “I don’t believe in Maine.”
I was like, “Shit, me too!”
Is wanton murder of civilians in their own country a forgivable offense to you?
Exactly. This is exactly what I mean: people like you.
If that was a comment he made out of anger, I am more disappointed in you, for not being able to or at least try to see why he said that. You’re the kind of destructive person who rather forget than forgive.
This is the same shit MAGAs do to Muslims/Arabs. They all think they hate the USA “for no good reason / because it is ingrained in them / it is genetic / they get taught as children to hate the USA” but they always gloss over, ignore or skip the “why,” or don’t do justice to the truth.
He obviously does not want that, dude. If anything, you are only showing me why he probably said that, and it’s because you keep disappointing Humanity with your racism, your excessive narcissism and the moral purity tests you do on everyone… I have personally said much WORSE, because I keep seeing my family die thanks to USA’s influence on Mexico and also the Middle East. My grand-grandpa was a Lebanese who escaped to Mexico, because Lebanon was being shelled by Israel and the USA a century ago. Now, in Mexico, we have a War on Drugs that kills 30,000 of us every year; a war on drugs that was forced upon us by Reagan and Nixon, and now the cartel is armed to the teeth with American weapons, our army isn’t, oddly enough, and their most profittable customer is the USA. It keeps us in fear, poor, terrorized, which makes us work for you for low wages, aka cheap labor for you, hence the reason you have us like this with a smile on your face.
And then I see you elect Trump twice, and self-called liberals like you commenting shit like this instead of focusing on the important stuff… Yeah, no. You lack passion and conviction for what you believe.
By the way, if you’re American, you paid for all that with your taxes (and if you’re not, you did it with your words), and you probably still do. You’re the one actually killing your own civilians, even if non-American. This system is global. It’s ironic, you probably can’t see it yet, but it is what it is. Stop looking sideways, look up.
I don’t give a fuck what you are or aren’t disappointed in.
I’m not American, dumbass. Death to America.
I’m certainly not a liberal, and I’m offended you even thought that.
You should read my comment history, amigo.
Congrats on the free healthcare.