If you are saying it’s ironic for the author to do the same thing they are criticizing, then yes, you’re saying that. Otherwise, there’s little to nothing similar about them, hence my original comment.
I’m saying the author is writing an essay for a concept that can easily be understood in a sentence, yes. And I find it ironic. Not bad, just funny. And somehow this offends people.
It’s a lost cause on here, as soon as you made a comment that wasn’t immediately and clearly anti-AI you’re going to get dogpiled with bad faith arguments and downvotes.
The irony of people commenting in a post promoting human writing while also failing to understand basic concepts of writing, such as irony.
People not finding someone writing an essay in response to being annoyed at people sending them irrelevant essays funny is acceptable enough to me. I don’t care if people don’t share my humor. The absolute wall of defensive text I’ve received in response is also funny, in a discussion about an essay about the value of brevity. And so is the idea that any of this is pro AI while people complain I have a reading comprehension issue. I can also assure you the irony of how much I’ve typed is also not lost on me. Frankly this thread is about to produce a singularity of irony.
Oh there’s plenty of funny stuff going on and it’s not like the downvotes matter. I mean that poster using Socratic irony to tell me why I found something ironically funny was wrong was amusing in itself if incredibly tedious.
Well, for one, it seems to be an appropriate place. They speak of essays out of nowhere in slack, this isn’t slack, it’s a site. Besides, the target audience (people sending slop grenades) obviously value verbosity as a virtue in and of itself, so it may help them.
For another, LLM essays are their own annoying beast. The material contributed by the human was contained in a terse prompt. In a slack, that’s everything I wanted, and the LLM just adds fluff and buries the meat in verbosity. Even “I don’t know” is much more valuable than wasting my time with an LLM essay hemming and hawing without any more clarity than we started.
I’m not declaring it exactly equivalent or anything, and what you said I find valid. The irony lies in what you said, that’s all. It’s a concept that can easily be explained in a sentence and is suggested to be posted wherever someone else posts an inappropriate AI essay. It’s just funny in the common situational ironic sense to me. People arguing that I shouldn’t find it ironically funny is bizarre to me. But also funny for other reasons.
Really though, I find it ironic as fuck to write an essay about how you shouldn’t post essays in inappropriate places.
Huh? How do you get from “generated slop littering is bad” to “all moderately long pieces of writing are bad”?
I didn’t. The thesis is AI essays in inappropriate medium is bad. And it’s an essay.
In an inappropriate medium?
No, I don’t believe I said that either. Are there any other things I didn’t say you wanted to go over?
If you are saying it’s ironic for the author to do the same thing they are criticizing, then yes, you’re saying that. Otherwise, there’s little to nothing similar about them, hence my original comment.
I’m saying the author is writing an essay for a concept that can easily be understood in a sentence, yes. And I find it ironic. Not bad, just funny. And somehow this offends people.
It’s a lost cause on here, as soon as you made a comment that wasn’t immediately and clearly anti-AI you’re going to get dogpiled with bad faith arguments and downvotes.
The irony of people commenting in a post promoting human writing while also failing to understand basic concepts of writing, such as irony.
I mean can the pro-AI comments at least make sense?
I haven’t seen any, this was a comment thread about irony people are somehow seeing pro-AI in it for reasons.
People not finding someone writing an essay in response to being annoyed at people sending them irrelevant essays funny is acceptable enough to me. I don’t care if people don’t share my humor. The absolute wall of defensive text I’ve received in response is also funny, in a discussion about an essay about the value of brevity. And so is the idea that any of this is pro AI while people complain I have a reading comprehension issue. I can also assure you the irony of how much I’ve typed is also not lost on me. Frankly this thread is about to produce a singularity of irony.
Oh there’s plenty of funny stuff going on and it’s not like the downvotes matter. I mean that poster using Socratic irony to tell me why I found something ironically funny was wrong was amusing in itself if incredibly tedious.
It’s irony all the way down
A human-written essay in a medium that is appropriate.
If you don’t understand the difference, you may be suffering from effects from LLM overusage.
Well, for one, it seems to be an appropriate place. They speak of essays out of nowhere in slack, this isn’t slack, it’s a site. Besides, the target audience (people sending slop grenades) obviously value verbosity as a virtue in and of itself, so it may help them.
For another, LLM essays are their own annoying beast. The material contributed by the human was contained in a terse prompt. In a slack, that’s everything I wanted, and the LLM just adds fluff and buries the meat in verbosity. Even “I don’t know” is much more valuable than wasting my time with an LLM essay hemming and hawing without any more clarity than we started.
I’m not declaring it exactly equivalent or anything, and what you said I find valid. The irony lies in what you said, that’s all. It’s a concept that can easily be explained in a sentence and is suggested to be posted wherever someone else posts an inappropriate AI essay. It’s just funny in the common situational ironic sense to me. People arguing that I shouldn’t find it ironically funny is bizarre to me. But also funny for other reasons.