• vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works
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    7 days ago

    One side was floating arms shipment cancellations and trying to broker a peace deal.

    No side did this. Biden said he was going to do this, then he went behind congress multiple times to deliver weapons. Harris explicitly stated her policy on Gaza was the same as the Biden administration. Which would be useless ceasefires (ceasefires aren’t ceasefires if only one side stops), empty words, while fully materially supporting the genocide while also supplying US intelligence and personnel for the genocide.

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      Reading comprehension. I never said Biden DID cancel arms shipment cancellations. I said he floated doing so. It was a shot fired across Israel’s bow to see how they’d respond. That’s how you start dealing with an ally that’s doing things you don’t agree with.

      Question.

      Do you remember Trump publicly expressing disapproval of Israel’s actions?

      Do you remember Trump publicly floating arms shipment cancellations?

      Do you remember Trump publicly attempting to broker a peace deal?

      Cuz I viscerally remember Biden doing all those things.

      Not. The. Same.

      • PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        6 days ago
        1. Trump disapproved of the optics of Israel taking so long with the Gaza erasure. So… Half credit?

        2. Not to my recollection, but that was never the ambition with his “peace through power” schtick.

        3. He made LOTS of hay about sending Witkoff over to try this, to the point that several posters here were grousing about the Logan Act.

        Ehh, Biden talked a lot of shit- some of the most egregious were his red lines on Rafah. Yes he was a step up from our current admin (almost fucking everyone is), but he left a lot to be desired- especially concerning everyone’s favorite Mideast Democracy.

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      7 days ago

      Sorry you’re getting downvoted. There’s this sickness among many liberals that think they can manifest their way to election victories. There’s this sick impulse to immediately deny any criticism or negative news about Democrats, even if acknowledging those failures is exactly what is needed for Democrats to win future elections. It’s the Blue MAGA gene, see no evil hear no evil speak no evil.

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        6 days ago

        There’s this sick impulse to immediately deny any criticism or negative news about Democrats

        My god. The irony of stating liberals manifest while you manifest that they deny any criticism or negative news about Democrats.

        The number of times I’ve seen liberals shit talk Democrats absolutely dwarfs the number of times I’ve seen conservatives shit talk Republicans.

        Hit me up when you achieve self awareness.