Is it illegal yet to run dd-wrt or similar on a USA router?
Build your own. Fuck these people.
Netgear is the one hardware company I have an absolute and complete avoidance for. If someone gave me anything from Netgear for free. It would go straight into the electronics recycling bin at my local dump and I’d go pay full price for a different brand.
Isn’t this only for “residential” routers
What defines a commercial router? How much are we talking? In $$$
We don’t even need the Access Point - those are still allowed to be sold.
Netgear is absolute shit. Never had a good product from them. Perfect for the US.
boy, I wonder what palantir backdoors they definitely won’t have.
My NetGear router still has a uselessly incomplete implementation of VLANs after 5+ years of updates, I was ready to replace it out of frustration. Gen 6 wireless is getting old hat anyway
Use a old PC and pfsense or opnsense. Netgate the maintainer of pfsense is US based. OPNsense is a fork of pfsense after they went corporate.
Netgear is trash
Control of the routers
Control of online identity
What could go wrong?
It could be worse… we could be living the alternate watchdogs legion timeline… where Albion wins.
And looks like netgear is off my list of trustworthiness. Used them for 20 years. Best get looking for a new one.
I have an apology to make. I did a knee jerk reaction. I already have an ASUs running. I was using netgear 30 years ago then switched to ASUs 20 years ago…. Been replacing it since. Brain fart yesterday. I have a netgear in the cupboard that the isp sent me. Getting flung.
You can build your own router fyi
Mikrotik just released a new overkill router with wifi7 and 2.5G Ethernet. Might pick one of those up in order to avoid the inevitable fuckery for the next few years.
ASUS is nice
Yeh I also have an ASU’s. Gonna dig it out.
So you now can be absolutely certain that Netgear is actively and openly giving fascist authoritarians what they want.
At least before you could be fairly certain it was just the secretive three letter guys that roughly knew what they were doing at least. Now it’s even the blatant dumb fucks in charge.
Definitely will have no backdoor or monitoring installed as default.
It’s not clear what makes Netgear’s currently foreign-made routers safer than, say, an Amazon Eero 7 or a Google Nest WiFi Pro.
This is all evidence that it’s not really about safety. It’s a clumsy attempt to strongarm tech companies into setting up factories in the USA. It may also be an attempt to create an environment in which it’s easier to install US government backdoors on every home router.
It’s a clumsy attempt to strongarm tech companies into setting up factories in the USA
Evidently not since Netgear has zero factories in the USA and plans to bring zero factories to the USA in the future.
It may also be an attempt to create an environment in which it’s easier to install US government backdoors on every home router.
It’s this one.
As well as a clumsy attempt to thwart foreign back doors. Unless they’ve paid for them. Or are Israel.
But how hilarious it is that Google and Amazon, already bending the knee to the emperor, did not get a pass.
Still need to wait for more details on what Netgear agreed on with the FCC to get the conditional approval. Otherwise it is hard to evaluate if this is a good or bad thing.
Found the details: $$$
The cool thing is that you can make basically any combination of parts into a router if you install Linux or BSD on it. Not terribly helpful for end user consumers that will get shafted by this, but at the end of the day it’s just a small computer.
Otherwise, smuggle some “foreign routers” in from Mexico or Canada like it’s the prohibition era?
The regulations also only cover consumer routers… I foresee more people getting racks installed in their house soon, lol.
This seems awfully convenient for everyone, but the consumer.







