• boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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    You literally called Mao top 5 humans of the last century and said the millions of deaths were justified. You’re a tankie.

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      You literally called Mao top 5 humans of the last century

      Yes I did and I stand by it

      said the millions of deaths were justified

      I never said justified, I said he cant be solely blamed for those deaths and you are discrediting him whatever he achieved by this boogeyman logic.

      I dont consider tankie as an insult

      1. I do not believe in liberalism and idea of liberal freedom liberal rights etc
      2. I am not an anarchist
      3. I believe in leninism and vangaurdism If you call those people tankies, fine by me.
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        No, in another comment you also said that the ones who were killed, rather than starved, deserved it.

        I dont consider tankie as an insult

        Personally I do, because I believe in personal liberties over authoritarian states’ “right” to straight up roll tanks on civilians.

        I do not believe in liberalism and idea of liberal freedom liberal rights etc

        So you’re an authoritarian and a bigot.

        I am not an anarchist

        Never claimed you were, those guys have some semblance of respect for human life. I do believe they even cherish freedom.

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          said that the ones who were killed, rather than starved, deserved it

          No I didnt? you are citing something out of context

          Personally I do, because I believe in personal liberties over authoritarian states’ “right” to straight up roll tanks on civilians.

          Your “liberal” state still carpet bombs people outside your borders. That proves liberalism is a shield of capitalist imperialism which you guys never learn.

          So you’re an authoritarian and a bigot. Being anti liberal is common sense not bigotness, Authoritarian is a meaningless word. Every state is authoritarian

          I respect human life, I do not believe in liberal idea of freedom.

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            No I didnt? you are citing something out of context

            Your “liberal” state still carpet bombs people outside your borders. That proves liberalism is a shield of capitalist imperialism which you guys never learn.

            Which one is that now? How is not being a bigot indicative of capitalist imperialism?

            I respect human life, I do not believe in liberal idea of freedom.

            You respect human life as long as the human is a slave and correct race and sexuality, got it.

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              1. Oh yeah that one yes I agree it was a civil war after all

              2. Seems like you are unaware of how western imperialism operates

              3. I never said anything about slavery race or sexuality and equality in those regards and they arent linked to liberalism whatsoever. Best women rights in 20th century was in communist states, soviet union legalized abortion in 1921 and decriminalized homosexuality around the same time. Liberalism do not have copyright to these stuff.

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                Liberty means freedom and you said you’re against liberty.

                Like I’ve tried to explain to you 10 times, the word liberalism in the context of eastern european politics or even modern western conservative political talk has NOTHING to do with any economic policies. Liberalism almost exclusively means caring about social justice. You can be a full-on communist or a “taxation is theft” libertarian, but if you support LGBT rights or dislike racism, congratulations, you’re now a liberal in current political parlance, at least in the corner of the world and political circles that this article is discussing.

                You use “liberal” as an insult because you to you it means private property, freedom to choose your own job and where you live, etc. The far right uses “liberal” as an insult because to them it means “not a bigot”.

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                  16 hours ago

                  Words have different meaning for different people. You understand liberalism by social freedom thats fine by me, thats not how I define it and I am not necessarily talking in context of eastern europe or this article.

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                    6 hours ago

                    Why are you even making comments here if you’re not talking in the context of this article or at least Ukraine?