hey so this might come as a surprise to some guys but actually most of the time women put effort into their appearance for themselves, so they feel confident, and comfortable in their bodies.
this post is reeking of Jordan Peterson’s women wear makeup because they want to fuck me energy
You cannot not communicate, the societal notion as to which is “good looks” for women is strongly sexualized and children are exposed to these notions from an early age. Also the subtle or less subtle social pressure plays a big role in it. A friend of mine moved from a “posh” city to mine. She said she didn’t dare going out without putting on makeup for two hours because she would get bad looks in the street otherwise and it took her a long time to unlearn that.
So while it isn’t women wearing make up because they want to fuck, the social construction that makes them feel less confident and less comfortable without make up is revolving around that and it is part of the problem. It is not that women just feel more confident with make up. It is that they feel less confident without it, because they are pressured to feel so.
I’m a woman. We don’t do it for ourselves, we do it so outward society as a whole doesn’t call us “tired” all day. If I thought I could go into work with no makeup and not get looks or comments, I would.
And while I have my disagreement from Peterson, you’ve completely missed the point to what he said. Makeup emulates the changes a face goes through when aroused. It is tied to attraction, which is tied to sex. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp.
I knew a girl with thin eyelashes in junior high/high school. She got made fun of for it a lot, by both girls and boys. So, I’m guessing some girls want thick lashes because they learned the hard way that guys do indeed care, and unfortunately society cares in general.
There are two extreme sides. Yeah, if you dont have many lashes to begin with, men will notice it as a flaw.
Right now, extremely large lashes are popular. I suspect it arose from Instagram makeup posts, or Instagram beauty in general. Eyelashes are harder to see in photos, so putting them on causes a fuller look. There are lots of women today who still wear a full face of Instagram makeup every day. The look today is extreme.
The sad reality of false lashes are that their regular lashes will eventually all or mostly fall out with extended use, both the glue on ones and the thraded in one’s. It’s a self-fulfilling cycle, because eventually they’ll have no natural lashes at all, causing them to have to wear them.
I used to wear falsies once a week back in 2010/2011 for a fashion meetup I attended. As soon I saw my natural lashes start falling out, I stopped. Now I only wear them if a Halloween costume calls for it. It’s not worth it otherwise.
And before anyone comes at me with: “But if you wear them pRoPeRlY-!”
It doesn’t matter. Humans aren’t infallible and mistakes happen. Over a long enough period, those lashes are coming out.
Yes, guys care, but what we have today isn’t just a reaction to men caring, it’s Instagram selfish culture in general.
I think girls who get long eyelashes do it because they like how they look.
And thank god if they do because I would hate a woman who only cares about what other people think of her looks.
How egotistic do you have to be to think that your opinion is warranted with regards to women’s appearance? Good for you if you think you don’t like lashes. No one asked, and I’d be willing to bet you’d see a woman with full face on including lashes or mascara and think she looks great. 🙄
The men in this thread calling women repulsive for wearing lashes are unbelievable. Imagine saying something so horrible to someone about an aspect of their appearance you personally think you don’t like. And then you wonder why no one wants to date you. So fucking sad that the endless male commentary on women’s bodies can make it to c/all and see so much support here.
This site is becoming the same kind of mysognistic reddit was.
I’m afraid, this isn’t exclusive to Lemmy or Reddit. It’s just patriarchy and toxic masculinity doing its thing
If I’m doing a male equivalent of fake eyelashes, I hope someone would tell me!
Like wearing a muscle suit under your clothes
Isn’t this like CGI? If done right you don’t see it?
no woman has ever said “these fake eyelashes are ugly as fuck but if i wear them i bet dudes will find me hot”
true story…
Gotdamn yall. Some men think it’s hot, some men don’t. Some women do wear makeup for others, some women don’t. More broadly, no one group does anything for a single reason so we need to stop being so combative online about shit posts.
No dude has ever said “she’d look hotter if her lips and cheeks were redder,” either but ya’ll would cry if we stopped wearing lipstick and blush. Quit your bullshit.
Seriously. I’m sure some people will hyperfixate on the lipstick/rouge example you gave, but generally many guys don’t understand or think about makeup and thus have no awareness of how it impacts how they’re attracted to people. And then they have the gall to lecture others about what works and what doesn’t.
Also shoutout to some of the straight up sexist replies in this thread. Nice to see a sizable chunk of reddit neckbeards made their way over here.
I would say it is kind of sexist to state that all men would cry if women stopped wearing blush and lipstick, and that we don’t realize what we are attracted to. We aren’t a hivemind. I personally prefer natural over makeup.
That being said, yea some of these replies are douchey as hell, and I’m sorry for women who have to deal with that bullshit.
But the post is already sexist. Why wouldn’t women want to push back?
not to mention, I get dressed and think “I look good today!”
at no point do i think, “I wonder if the average woman would like me wearing this, and if they wouldn’t I will never wear it again”
I mean I’m bi, so I guess it’s “any given person”
if I had to dress entirely like any person anywhere in the world would like what I’m wearing I’d end up looking like a waiter every day.
But then some people think that women somehow are considering “the average guy” in their dressing habits. I assume the majority of the world gives very little thought to other people when getting dressed.
To be fair guys would still have sex with you if you didn’t wear make-up at all. It’s just that if you like the way you look with make-up, do your thing. I hardly wear any make-up because my cheeks turn red naturally and I don’t want to hide that and add artificial blush. I’ll just do lipstick and smokey eyes.
Red lipstick is the worst. Makes the wearer look clownish.
Nah, calm your tits.
I wanna make my lashes hella long and paint my eyelids green so my eyes look like a pair of Venus Flytraps.
Or if her lips were shaped like balloons
I’ve never said those words, but eye lash extensions do it for me. It’s not often that I notice it, but when I start getting that junior high crush feeling for women I interact with, I usually notice they have the fake eyelashes going.
Man, that guy would be so much hotter with a loose toupee.
Things can affect your perception of someone even if you don’t consciously notice them; some things are specifically intended to affect your perception of someone without being consciously noticed.
People that make statements on behalf of all people in a large group are weird, to put it politely.
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