• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    When half of Europe had socialist leaders, that half of Europe was total shit authoritarian countries that oppressed the population, and prevented progress.

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      2 hours ago

      That’s because they were authoritarian, not socialist. Just like the Nazis called themselves socialist, despite being obviously authoritarian. Same way that American fascists love to co-opt and redefine words like “liberty, freedom, grooming,” etc.

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        1 hour ago

        Socialism is authoritarian. There has never existed an example of a Socialist regime that wasn’t.

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          29 minutes ago

          This guy refuses to engage with the fact that the Zapatistas exist, an anarchist region with at least 300,000 people living under it, and also that Revolutionary Spain existed, an extremely successful example of anarchism in practice which resisted Nazi Germany better than any democratic nation in mainland Europe. I have pointed them out to him a few times now and he just keeps ignoring it, like an NPC in Westworld. It’s more comfortable to deny reality when it lets you go on believing your existing beliefs. Admitting that you’re wrong is hard.

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              7 hours ago

              Ah, I see, you’re struggling to debate my ideas on the merits, so you’re resorting to wasting my time. I’m not interested in childish games, I am trying to save lives here. I can lead you to water, whether you drink or not is entirely your prerogative. All the best!

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                7 hours ago

                so you’re resorting to wasting my time.

                Nope you were. IDK where “here” is, only you know that. And it takes only a second to make a link. Also you wanted to make a point, but failing to provide the link you also failed to make your point.
                I don’t really give a shit about your point, and apparently you don’t either.

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                  7 hours ago

                  I don’t really give a shit about your point

                  Yet you asked me to explain a very complex topic, just for you. Curious!

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                    6 hours ago

                    And where did I ask that? I wrote: “When half of Europe had socialist leaders, that half of Europe was total shit authoritarian countries that oppressed the population, and prevented progress.”

                    And that’s what you responded to.
                    I think you are confused and lost. Not just “here” but about politics in general.