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    No they aren’t, Russia wouldn’t have purchased thousands of Iranian drones if they could produce them domestically.

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            No Russia put out propaganda and cnn puts whatever will get clicks and views out regardless of how truthful or well vetted it is.

            Are you seriously going to argue cnn is a credible wholely truthful news source at point? Really?

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              No they aren’t, Russia wouldn’t have purchased thousands of Iranian drones if they could produce them domestically.

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              Russia put out propaganda

              The original link in this post is to an article by the Associated Press (syndicated on a website owned by Bell Canada) and it cites “U.S. and European officials” as its primary source to support the claim made in the headline that Russia is supplying drones to Iran.

              I’m curious: did you call this Russian propaganda after reading only the headline, without actually realizing who is saying what here?

              Correct me if I’m wrong but I suspect that after you read the article and see that Russia in fact denies sending drones to Iran (and says the seven trucks they just sent have food and medical supplies) you’ll probably change your mind and decide that they probably are in fact sending drones.

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                Yes and they’re going by Russian propaganda and surely you aren’t implying us intelligence hasnt ever been wrong, correct? Like I dunno wmds in Iraq, Afghanistan or currently in Iran.

                Of course Russia denys it, the point is to back an ally with the claim they’re helping which makes Russia a credible war target which would involve actual nukes. They’re just stiring the pot and informed people shouldn’t buy their bullshit regardless of whatever political factionism is involved.

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                No they put out wherever gets clicks, it doesn’t particularly matter what it is there’s just less that goes against the regime because they don’t want to get sued by the toddler.

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                  CNN is owned by capitalists, and thus puts out what these capitalists want to be put out. CNN is absolutely biased in these capitalist’s favor.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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              CNN is certainly more credible than a random troll from lemmy.world, and if you spend 5 minutes googling you’ll find plenty of sources about this factory. Your dedication to making a clown of yourself here is truly remarkable.

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        I don’t buy it. Not with drone alerts reaching friggin Perm. Weren’t you yourself saying the war would end after the failed “counteroffensive”?

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          I was, but the fact that Russia isn’t doing big offensives doesn’t mean they’re struggling either. I expected there was a good chance the AFU could collapse, but they held things together. And drone warfare now makes it much more costly to do large scale offensives, so it settled into attrition. Now that the war in Iran has started, there’s going to be far less attention put towards Ukraine as well. Which is a good reason for Russia to provide aid to Iran all of itself.

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    Its a really confusing world we’re living in.

    I don’t super US/Israel so I am happy Iran with Russia’s help is able to inflict pain on them. Happy to see US getting weaker.

    But I also don’t support Russia/Iran both have horrible regime so I don’t want to see them victorious.

    I supported Ukraine initially because Russia is a bully but Ukraine supports Israel which is a worse bully.

    I don’t know who to support and who to be against any more

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      This is why Marxists always and without fail return to imperialism as the primary contradiction in the world at the present moment, between the old and falling unipolar world and the rising multipolar world and the end of imperialism. Capitalism, when it reaches a certain level of development, has a compulsion towards outside expansion, which creates its own antagonism from countries that wish to remain sovereign.

      Right now, the US Empire is the dying hegemonic power. There are no competing empires, just an international imperialist alliance that formed after World War II, when the US Empire vassalized the other imperialist powers. Iran and Russia are sovereign countries, and as such have been butting heads with the west, which wishes to imperialize them. Ukraine and Israel are so close together because they share a similar geopolitical position, as attack dogs for the US Empire against their adversaries.

      Without an understanding of how capitalism turns to imperialism, under what conditions, and how this can itself be negated, then it’s understandable that it would be difficult to understand the world. I really recommend reading Lenin’s Imperialism, the Current Highest Stage of Capitalism. Imperialism has evolved since his time, namely from competing imperialist powers into a single imperial hegemon and vassalized imperialist powers, but the basis is still correct and necessary for understanding the modern era.

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      You would have really struggled with World War 2. “Britian and France both have horrible regimes, so I’d hate to see them victorious!”

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        Russia also committed war crimes. both Natanyahu and Valadmir are officially war criminals so what’s your point?

        Israel is committing Genocide yes. Iran killed thousands of Syrians opposing Asad regime and even killed thousands of Iranians opposing khumeni.

        The discussion of “who is more criminal” or which killing is Genocide and which is just “mass killing” is pointless to me.

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          Hizbollah fought the armed groups who oppose the butcher Assad because their weapons used to defend against israeli occupation passed for Syria

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      Need to support Iran and Russia critically at bare minimum. They are the ones resisting imperialism.

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        Russia is not “resisting imperialism”. It is currently stuck in its own imperialistic quagmire with Ukraine.

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          That’s not really what they mean by imperialism. When Marxists speak of “imperialism,” we mean the existing system of international extraction helmed by the US and its vassal states. Imperialism in the Marxist sense is economically compelled by late-stage capitalism, and is its necessary evolution, into a highly financialized system of plunder from the global south.

          Russia and Iran are both sovereign countries working against this system, because both stand to gain from a multi-polar world. Ukraine and Israel are so close together because they share a similar geopolitical position, as attack dogs for the US Empire against their adversaries.

          Without an understanding of how capitalism turns to imperialism, under what conditions, and how this can itself be negated, then it’s understandable that it would be difficult to understand the world. I really recommend reading Lenin’s Imperialism, the Current Highest Stage of Capitalism. Imperialism has evolved since his time, namely from competing imperialist powers into a single imperial hegemon and vassalized imperialist powers, but the basis is still correct and necessary for understanding the modern era.

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        Iran resist imperialism. Russia do not and only help Iran because thry share the same enemy the united snakes

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            imperialist russia fighting a worse imperialist power called the united states

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              You call Russia imperialist. Materially, it is not. Imperialism requires export of capital, enforced unequal exchange, subordinated peripheral economies to a core. Russia does not command the IMF. It does not control SWIFT. It does not own global platforms or academic gatekeeping. It is an oligarchic kleptocracy with regional ambitions and security concerns. Conflating it with US hegemony serves Western propaganda.

              Also it’s not just the US it’s the imperial core as a whole: Europe, NATO, Five eyes and their vassals like the ROK and Japan.