You kind of need to work with the system you have until you can change it.
Wow, what a lib take. You sound just like this lib:
Whilst you lack the strength to do away with bourgeois parliaments and every other type of reactionary institution, you must work within them because it is there that you will still find workers who are duped by the priests and stultified by the conditions of rural life; otherwise you risk turning into nothing but windbags.
Sorry I’m editing this and removing the quite true bit. Part of my post does align with Lenin’s quote (you’ll note I also suggest you need to revolt as alternative, but some people aren’t going to want to try that) so my question still stands. But in addition I’d like to ask, what the fuck are you on about? Are you suggesting you think Lenin was a “lib”?
Yeah I was trying to lampoon the lemmings who sincerely believe that participating in elections is fundamentally anti-left. I figured it would be obvious, but to be fair I have seen some particularly counterproductive tankies.
Yeah, the US gov seems to use The Onion as a manual these days, it desensitises the wider concept of satire because any nonsense could be a real thing.
It’s wild that people think disengaging from the system completely is a solution, particularly when they aren’t pursuing the alternatives. They are always light on what the alternatives are beyond starting an actual revolution (noones doing that, and if they are they are doing a shit job and need to start building some momentum and pressing ahead, turnaround on the plan-implement cycle needs to be quick lest it be dismantled by the state before it can get moving) or wallowing in self pity (not going to help).
To be fair tone is hard to read. That said I am not sure our fellow lemms would get it. Some of us here read things to strictly. It reminds me of christian fundies in a way.
Yeah, “That lib Vladimir Lenin” being accepted as plausible is concerning, to say the least. Not blaming you, it’s a reflection of the discourse, but Christ what a discourse.
I didn’t catch the satire either, but I think it’s because I don’t know you and, well, people say a lot of dumb things on the internet. It is sad that discourse has gotten so stupid that I thought you were serious.
Wow, what a lib take. You sound just like this lib:
-Vladimir Lenin
Quite true,what’s your suggested alternative?Sorry I’m editing this and removing the quite true bit. Part of my post does align with Lenin’s quote (you’ll note I also suggest you need to revolt as alternative, but some people aren’t going to want to try that) so my question still stands. But in addition I’d like to ask, what the fuck are you on about? Are you suggesting you think Lenin was a “lib”?
I completely agree with you. I thought calling Lenin a lib would negate the need for the /s
Apologies for for missing it, I was distracted by a loud whooshing noise like something was flying past my head …
Yeah I was trying to lampoon the lemmings who sincerely believe that participating in elections is fundamentally anti-left. I figured it would be obvious, but to be fair I have seen some particularly counterproductive tankies.
Satire is truly dead.
Yeah, the US gov seems to use The Onion as a manual these days, it desensitises the wider concept of satire because any nonsense could be a real thing.
It’s wild that people think disengaging from the system completely is a solution, particularly when they aren’t pursuing the alternatives. They are always light on what the alternatives are beyond starting an actual revolution (noones doing that, and if they are they are doing a shit job and need to start building some momentum and pressing ahead, turnaround on the plan-implement cycle needs to be quick lest it be dismantled by the state before it can get moving) or wallowing in self pity (not going to help).
To be fair tone is hard to read. That said I am not sure our fellow lemms would get it. Some of us here read things to strictly. It reminds me of christian fundies in a way.
Yeah, “That lib Vladimir Lenin” being accepted as plausible is concerning, to say the least. Not blaming you, it’s a reflection of the discourse, but Christ what a discourse.
I didn’t catch the satire either, but I think it’s because I don’t know you and, well, people say a lot of dumb things on the internet. It is sad that discourse has gotten so stupid that I thought you were serious.