The Pentagon is making "heavy preparations" for deploying American troops on the ground in Iran as President Donald Trump continues to weigh his options.
Trump has raped children, is a convicted felon, and demolished part of the White House. He’s threatened reporters with execution, demanded personal enrichment as part of foreign trade, incited a terrorist attack on the Capitol building, and then pardoned the terrorists convicted of their crimes. He has openly solicited bribes and disclosed classified data to our enemies that resulted in the deaths of American agents abroad.
His supporters will not move an inch regardless of how many soldiers they see dying.
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate the plain and stark language. I’m so tired of the sane washing, I’m so tired of skirting the issue. We need to accept and then figure out how to deal with the facts.
It’s not his supporters I’m worried about, it’s the apathy and impatience of the average american voter that does.
I’ve been around for over 4 decades and the only thing I’ve ever seen conservatives give a fuck about were gas prices, unborn babies (specifically), and people with not white skin becoming president.
Note: Specifically unborn babies because they don’t give a flying fuck about kids after they’re born. That’s why they voted for a party that is currently obliterating child cancer research and are against free school lunches.
That’s because Conservativism isn’t really am ideology. It’s psychological cover for being selfish. Conservatives define their core values based on whatever is good for the people within the Conservative group. They believe that they are the good people, the special people, and that they are entitled to whatever they want. Anyone that stands in their way is evil. Any facts that challenge their world view are lies. Any crimes they commit in service to their goals are justified.
Conservatives don’t care about gas prices or unborn babies or racism unless those issues help them get elected. Conservatives get abortions when they want them. They will even blame other people getting abortions “for no reason” as the reason why they can’t get their own “totally justified and moral” abortion.
They start wars, make trade agreements, and deregulate inustries that raise gas prices, because someone is getting rich from the high gas prices. When Conservatives are in charge and prices go up, they will tell you it is your patriotic duty to fuel up you SUV and drive around.
Even the racism is entirely user dependent. Black conservatives, Latino conservatives, Asian conservatives, Jewish conservatives, Islamic conservatives, Russian conservatives, they all hate someone and they all pretend to be the most persecuted people. It doesn’t matter if they all hate the same people, as long as they hate somebody.
This is not politics. It’s pathological narcissism.
This all has a simple cause at the root: conservative worldview assumes that life is a zero-sum game, and for one person or group to prosper, others must lose.
Perhaps, but to expend effort on getting someone to lose and themselves to win, they must believe that the balance works that way. If they believed that cooperation is a win-win situation and absence of cooperation is lose-lose, they would act differently.
Conservative worldview stems from the belief that the resources are always limited, so if someone else is getting them then the conservative in question doesn’t. If you extrapolate this presupposition, you can derive pretty much every single position that conservatives hold on any issue.
Although it’s funny that fiscal individualism, aiming to keep one’s money to themselves, ends up benefitting corporations and rich bastards hoarding the wealth.
I don’t think those two things are mutually exclusive. I mean… I’m not a religious person, so perhaps there’s some nuance to it that I don’t get, but, yeah… there is at least some overlap
I genuinely disagree only because, for so many of his supporters, it is their children. I don’t think it will change them as people or their politics as a whole but it will effect Republican chances in the next election. If we have legitimate elections at all. I’m almost certain there will be armed feds at polling stations to “protect them” and fearmongering about Iranian hackers tampering with the results.
there will be armed feds at polling stations to “protect them”
Y’know, if this happens, assuming the machines aren’t rigged, screw it…We should all be showing up in our gawdyest American flag apparel and cargo shorts and maybe even stupid little red hats. Blend right in, maybe on the way in even fist bump a fed goon with a “Herl yer, bruther.” …and vote the right way right under their stupid noses.
Drop the ego, become invisible, become inevitable. We have only our chains to lose and everything to gain.
I think you’re misunderstanding my point; if your vote counted, and they were “guarding the polls” trying to loyalty test or intimidate, who cares what you say or wear or act like, as long as you get in there and check that box?
That ballot box is the endzone.
Sure, we should be protesting away, visibly, yes. We should be keeping the pressure on, yes. We need to be galvanizing and educating our communities, absolutely.
But come voting time? Pride and dignity be damned: Discretion is the better part of valor.
At the polls, yeah people who have already voted should be protesting and building morale to encourage everyone to show up.
But when it comes time to cast yours,
nobody should give you a second look. Walk right in there like a ghost and check the box. At all costs. Even if you gotta look like a complete tool.
Shower at home afterwards if you have to.
Being loud and proud and getting hauled away (or killed) beforehand is one less chance to get to fixing this thing, and even worse, you would be used as a tool to further scare away others from voting.
Not being able to tell who the true believers are vs. the saboteurs undermines factions all the time, and they absolutely use that tactic against us all the time.
I don’t personally think things will be so dramatic. The biggest battle is getting our side to actually vote at all, but we need to be prepared for this possibility and not be intimidated or foolhardy.
Trump has raped children, is a convicted felon, and demolished part of the White House. He’s threatened reporters with execution, demanded personal enrichment as part of foreign trade, incited a terrorist attack on the Capitol building, and then pardoned the terrorists convicted of their crimes. He has openly solicited bribes and disclosed classified data to our enemies that resulted in the deaths of American agents abroad.
His supporters will not move an inch regardless of how many soldiers they see dying.
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate the plain and stark language. I’m so tired of the sane washing, I’m so tired of skirting the issue. We need to accept and then figure out how to deal with the facts.
It’s not his supporters I’m worried about, it’s the apathy and impatience of the average american voter that does.
Yeah, GOP voters have always been a lost cause. The real question is what impression do the idiot swing voters have of him these days.
I’ve been around for over 4 decades and the only thing I’ve ever seen conservatives give a fuck about were gas prices, unborn babies (specifically), and people with not white skin becoming president.
Note: Specifically unborn babies because they don’t give a flying fuck about kids after they’re born. That’s why they voted for a party that is currently obliterating child cancer research and are against free school lunches.
That’s because Conservativism isn’t really am ideology. It’s psychological cover for being selfish. Conservatives define their core values based on whatever is good for the people within the Conservative group. They believe that they are the good people, the special people, and that they are entitled to whatever they want. Anyone that stands in their way is evil. Any facts that challenge their world view are lies. Any crimes they commit in service to their goals are justified.
Conservatives don’t care about gas prices or unborn babies or racism unless those issues help them get elected. Conservatives get abortions when they want them. They will even blame other people getting abortions “for no reason” as the reason why they can’t get their own “totally justified and moral” abortion.
They start wars, make trade agreements, and deregulate inustries that raise gas prices, because someone is getting rich from the high gas prices. When Conservatives are in charge and prices go up, they will tell you it is your patriotic duty to fuel up you SUV and drive around.
Even the racism is entirely user dependent. Black conservatives, Latino conservatives, Asian conservatives, Jewish conservatives, Islamic conservatives, Russian conservatives, they all hate someone and they all pretend to be the most persecuted people. It doesn’t matter if they all hate the same people, as long as they hate somebody.
This is not politics. It’s pathological narcissism.
This all has a simple cause at the root: conservative worldview assumes that life is a zero-sum game, and for one person or group to prosper, others must lose.
It’s not even that complicated. A comservative doesn’t care if anyone else loses, as long as they feel like they win.
Perhaps, but to expend effort on getting someone to lose and themselves to win, they must believe that the balance works that way. If they believed that cooperation is a win-win situation and absence of cooperation is lose-lose, they would act differently.
Conservative worldview stems from the belief that the resources are always limited, so if someone else is getting them then the conservative in question doesn’t. If you extrapolate this presupposition, you can derive pretty much every single position that conservatives hold on any issue.
Although it’s funny that fiscal individualism, aiming to keep one’s money to themselves, ends up benefitting corporations and rich bastards hoarding the wealth.
They also really hate us LGBTQ people
They don’t hate you they think you’re literally an abomination. Especially the religious ones
I don’t think those two things are mutually exclusive. I mean… I’m not a religious person, so perhaps there’s some nuance to it that I don’t get, but, yeah… there is at least some overlap
It’s because the real motivation isn’t the kids, it’s punishing women. Babies are just the marketing.
Hey, they care a lot about children after they’re born, just not the way a normal person cares about them …
Guns and hating any sort of liberal thought.
I genuinely disagree only because, for so many of his supporters, it is their children. I don’t think it will change them as people or their politics as a whole but it will effect Republican chances in the next election. If we have legitimate elections at all. I’m almost certain there will be armed feds at polling stations to “protect them” and fearmongering about Iranian hackers tampering with the results.
Y’know, if this happens, assuming the machines aren’t rigged, screw it…We should all be showing up in our gawdyest American flag apparel and cargo shorts and maybe even stupid little red hats. Blend right in, maybe on the way in even fist bump a fed goon with a “Herl yer, bruther.” …and vote the right way right under their stupid noses.
Drop the ego, become invisible, become inevitable. We have only our chains to lose and everything to gain.
Idk dawg, putting our heads down and blending in doesn’t seem like a great way to fight fascism.
I think you’re misunderstanding my point; if your vote counted, and they were “guarding the polls” trying to loyalty test or intimidate, who cares what you say or wear or act like, as long as you get in there and check that box?
That ballot box is the endzone.
Sure, we should be protesting away, visibly, yes. We should be keeping the pressure on, yes. We need to be galvanizing and educating our communities, absolutely.
But come voting time? Pride and dignity be damned: Discretion is the better part of valor.
At the polls, yeah people who have already voted should be protesting and building morale to encourage everyone to show up.
But when it comes time to cast yours, nobody should give you a second look. Walk right in there like a ghost and check the box. At all costs. Even if you gotta look like a complete tool. Shower at home afterwards if you have to.
Being loud and proud and getting hauled away (or killed) beforehand is one less chance to get to fixing this thing, and even worse, you would be used as a tool to further scare away others from voting.
Not being able to tell who the true believers are vs. the saboteurs undermines factions all the time, and they absolutely use that tactic against us all the time.
I don’t personally think things will be so dramatic. The biggest battle is getting our side to actually vote at all, but we need to be prepared for this possibility and not be intimidated or foolhardy.
Yeah but this could make gas prices go up.
It’s just a progressive conspiracy and brown people are at fault.