With Iraq, most people were in favor at the time. This time, even that much can’t be said, as the notion of war with Iran is immensely unpopular on both sides of the aisle.
I was younger during Iraq but I definitely remember ordinary people speaking out. It was mainly the media and politicians that made it seem so unanimous. I have a distinct memory of a friend sharing a meme criticizing the case for the invasion and not really understanding it.
Even though I didn’t vote for dubya, I did have a similar feeling with Obama and his foreign policy. Not sure how much people remember but he positioned himself as a bit of an anti-war candidate initially.
Even though I didn’t vote for dubya, I did have a similar feeling with Obama and his foreign policy. Not sure how much people remember but he positioned himself as a bit of an anti-war candidate initially.
To my memory, he was anti-Iraq War and pro-Afghanistan War, and pursued a foreign policy consistent with that. It would have been strange if he had opted not to assist in Libya after our allies had already involved themselves in a civil war against a dictator; and the plan was to ‘pivot’ to a defensive position reinforcing allies in Asia (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam) rather than intensifying interventionism, while decreasing the defense budget. Unfortunately, the whole ISIS mess started while that process was ongoing. He still managed to reduce the defense budget - a feat not seen since.
38 to 57 is far from unanimous. I’m just saying there were millions who opposed it from the beginning, but the media and congress made it seem like a tiny fringe position.
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Definitely not my first time, unfortunately.
With Iraq, most people were in favor at the time. This time, even that much can’t be said, as the notion of war with Iran is immensely unpopular on both sides of the aisle.
I was younger during Iraq but I definitely remember ordinary people speaking out. It was mainly the media and politicians that made it seem so unanimous. I have a distinct memory of a friend sharing a meme criticizing the case for the invasion and not really understanding it.
Even though I didn’t vote for dubya, I did have a similar feeling with Obama and his foreign policy. Not sure how much people remember but he positioned himself as a bit of an anti-war candidate initially.
Unfortunately, I remember polling.
To my memory, he was anti-Iraq War and pro-Afghanistan War, and pursued a foreign policy consistent with that. It would have been strange if he had opted not to assist in Libya after our allies had already involved themselves in a civil war against a dictator; and the plan was to ‘pivot’ to a defensive position reinforcing allies in Asia (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam) rather than intensifying interventionism, while decreasing the defense budget. Unfortunately, the whole ISIS mess started while that process was ongoing. He still managed to reduce the defense budget - a feat not seen since.
38 to 57 is far from unanimous. I’m just saying there were millions who opposed it from the beginning, but the media and congress made it seem like a tiny fringe position.
Sure it’s so unpopular that they keep refusing to vote on stopping him. It’s not unpopular if they keep letting him do it.
Well, unpopular with the public. Popular with congress. A lot of Dem criticism amounts to, “he’s doing the thing we want done incompetently!”
We just have dogshit public memory.