The legislation takes aim directly at trans individuals using the restroom or locker rooms, threatening those who “knowingly” and “willfully” enter facilities designated for the “opposite biological sex” with prison time. A first offense would count as a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail. Those caught using the bathroom in repeated offenses, however, could be convicted as felons and face up to five years in prison.
It’ll be interesting to see how this aligns with the Full Faith and Credit clause for someone who updates their birth certificate from another state that allows for that then uses the bathroom that aligns with said certificate.
Plenty of Pedo Protectors and Pedos in the red run Idaho oblast.
Only pedophiles would think about children’s dicks as much as Republicans do.
A felony? LOL
I wonder if they are smart enough to put exceptions in for children where the father or mother may possibly take the child into the ‘wrong’ bathroom.
Wait til some MAGA Dad gets arrested for this
Right wingers are all such goddamn freaks I swear.
And snowflakes
Is this a girl toilet or a guy toilet?
is it a Toto or American Standard?
That’s actually a really easy answer.
It’s female.
les toilettes - in french.
It’s male in Spanish lol. Does that make toilets non-binary?
el baño / el inodoro
Maybe we need to go by where it was manufactured, and maybe they should come with labels etched into the porcelain so they don’t get mis-gendered and placed incorrectly?
We could issue certificates at the time they’re manufactured
I dunno, if we do that it might cause some black market certificate situation with people trying to unlawfully place male toilets in the female bathrooms.
How boring and stupid do you need to be to make this your legislative priority?
Its not boring and stupid, it’s hateful and bigoted
I mean Republicans can’t govern. So if they weren’t persecuting a minority to appease their bigot base, what would they be doing?
Do they include a definition of “biological sex”? And of how that’s going to be determined?
Of course not. They have no fucking clue what they’re talking about. They just want to hurt people
The people making this law have no idea that there are people who are biologically intersex and, if told, will dismiss it as irrelevant because they’re “a tiny minority”. Deaf people are also a small minority and it’s common practice to accommodate them. All people should be considered when making a law with the threat of jail time.
What about intersex people… can they go in both?
If it comes up in court, I guess they’ll be forced to specify if they’re defining biological sex by chromosomes, genitalia, or some other biological feature. Unfortunately, the law was made by people who are completely oblivious to the complexity of biological sex. This is why people shouldn’t be allowed to make laws without knowing the science if these things. Same thing with anti-abortion laws being made by people who don’t understand biology
The cruelty is and has always ever been the point.
Oooh! Oooh! I remember this one!
Next, businesses will have to create a separate restroom that says “TRANS ONLY” so things can be “separate but equal”…
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I would be weirdly fine with a trans bathroom as long as cis people genuinely can’t enter it… We would keep that shit immaculate and safe. Tiny little safe space with sinks and mirrors and toiletries and supportive allies anywhere you go.
Except now you have a situation where armed individuals who masturbate to the 2nd amendment will wait idly by the TRANS ONLY bathroom for someone to walk out of it, murder the person who walked out of it, and say they feared for their lives because they tried to “groom them”.
At least in that situation the Trans person/people could reasonably expect the business/establishment to be an ally. That’s assuming there is no law that says there has to be a Trans only bathroom, any place which installs one would probably only be doing that because they’re an ally or Trans themselves. Now what your describing happening to businesses/establishments which are supportive of Trans people I can totally see happening.
I mean, yes, obviously, I am all too aware of the larger safety issues and societal issues of “separate but equal”
They won’t do that because they would be acknowledging the existence of transpeople.
And giving them no where to feel comfortable in public is the entire point. Giving them their own washroom would be a short step in the right direction from the depraved place we’re in.
Yeah, Jim Crow was a compromise already. I think benchs, restaurant tables, bathrooms were non-existent generally for African Americans in the South.
Man, I did not know Idaho was so dominated by lunatics.
northern idaho is nazi paradise. southern idaho is mormons. boise has some sanity but it’s a lone island
As a Canadian, I could have guessed… There’s a sort of obvious pattern that’s emerged over the last couple of decades involving the less populated areas being the most deathly afraid of the world at large, thanks in large part to the sample biases incepted through social media.
I’m in a neighboring state to Idaho - it’s a pretty fucked up place tbh.
It’ll be interesting to see how this aligns with the Full Faith and Credit clause for someone who updates their birth certificate from another state that allows for that then uses the bathroom that aligns with said certificate.
Only if the bill mentions birth certificate as the source for one’s “biological sex” and not something about genotype or phenotype at birth (both of which have different issues).
I guess the right response to this is to get the absolute manliest-looking trans men to Idaho to use the public ladies’ room in places frequented by lots of the most fragile GOP-types. Monkey’s paw that shitstain of a bill.
Only if the bill mentions birth certificate as the source for one’s “biological sex” and not something about genotype or phenotype at birth (both of which have different issues).
Right, and what is the documentation that legally expresses that? A birth certificate. Seems really easy to say “I went to the bathroom that aligns with my birth certificate with the good faith intent to follow the law.” People can’t see their genotype or phenotype with their eyeballs, so relying on that document seems the best a lay person can do. Seems a good faith to follow the birth certificate, whatever it may be modified to.
All of that is fair, except for one thing: you absolutely can see phenotype. It being observable characteristics is literally part of the definition. The pheno- prefix has a Greek root meaning to show or display, same origin as in phenomenon. A phenotype is thus categorizing something based on how it appears.
Gendered bathrooms should be banned. Things being gender-exclusive should generally be illegal (regarded as bigotry/hate).
JUST PUT REAL WALLS INSTEAD OF STALLS
I would agree, but…the line for the woman’s bathroom is so long…as long as there’s the same number of stalls and urinals as there would be if they were separated, I definitely support non-gendered!
yeah, i’m nonbinary. i like taking advantage of whichever line is shortest when my anus’s floodgates are about to give because hey, i don’t fit either box easily and we don’t want me shitting on the floor. turning it into one line takes that advantage away from me (i’d have to ask “hey everyone my pooper’s leaking can i cut the line” and that’s more embarrassing for y’all than me. trust me i can make it really embarrassing for y’all i practice) so i say leave the gendered bathrooms. or two nongendered bathrooms but people being so awkward they self-segregate. this is pure self-interest tho
Yeah and honestly I’m a woman but I’m going to use urinals as long as I’m still able, convenient af and hilarious every time to lift your skirt to use a urinal
ha! i’ve never seen a purple one before
some practical advice if it’s your first time using one of these: do not ignore the direction the wind is blowing. in fact, aim for nearby bushes or leaves if you can.
Looooool, I’ve heard of those!
yes
obviously there would be the same number overall
availability would actually be higher as there would be twice as many available to the individual
I can see places cheaping out and just having one bathroom for both that’s the size of just one of them, but it would be a small price to pay to get rid of this terrorizing of trans people…or just anyone who doesn’t appear to fit into specific gender roles.
Why haven’t we adopted gender neutral bathrooms on a global scale?
Shut the fuck up, regard. If we did that how the hell would we be able to attack this easy target of vulnerable people?!
The real reason? Because men can’t control themselves and women have reasons to fear for their safety in closed spaces with them.
Men are entirely capable of controlling themselves, I can attest to that personally.
Your’s isn’t an argument, it’s the confession of a predator.
Next time, maybe duck. Because holy shit that went right over your head.
You’re the “not all men” type, eh?
No, every single man is capable of controlling themselves, you’re just a psychopath.
Edit: Why should I have ducked if it had already been going over my head? Also, it’s hilarious that you of all people would try to use “I was just joking” as a reply, considering what I’ve seen from your other comments. Were you just joking when you were talking about how you want to censor trans folks out of existence?
Also, you’re into prediction markets and crypto. You are a giant fucking red flag, holy shit.
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There are gender neutral bathrooms all over the place.
It’s a sexist idea that men can’t control themselves.
Congrats on missing the obvious commentary and point OP was making.
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Well hey, at least they’re focusing on everyday issues that affect the lives of every American.
Wasn’t there an executive order that said all people must use women’s bathrooms?
Yeah but that doesn’t fit the “We hate women and trans people” narrative.
