• 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    in WW2, was there a distinction on which parts of Germany were more or less in favour of Hitler? When we carpet bombed Cambodia, did we looked into the regional polls? when we bombed Teheran, do they look at which neighbours and school girls were more or less in favour of the regime? When we endorsed a genocide in Gaza, did we ask to only target certain neighbours based on polls?

    This “In hope they spare the blue states” is such an unimaginably entitled statement. Sounds like “But I am one of the good guys!!!”

    No, the US has a long imperialist career of wars of aggressions and war crimes. You have personally benefited from them by having low fuel costs, you are not innocent, you might not have consented to this, but you are part of it, your taxes paid for it. If anything the US is the nation that need to be liberated.

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      11 hours ago

      in WW2, was there a distinction on which parts of Germany were more or less in favour of Hitler?

      In WW2, the war was explicit and you could be prosecuted for protest in Germany. There’s little reason at all to account for the political climate aside from the states official stance.

      When we carpet bombed Cambodia, did we looked into the regional polls? when we bombed Teheran, do they look at which neighbours and school girls were more or less in favour of the regime? When we endorsed a genocide in Gaza, did we ask to only target certain neighbours based on polls?

      We as a militaristic superpower similarly have zero need for as much. We impose by domination, which I’m literally arguing Iran can’t do.

      This “In hope they spare the blue states” is such an unimaginably entitled statement. Sounds like “But I am one of the good guys!!!”

      I hear you, it sounds wishful and entitled. Yet, my point has nothing to do with how I perceive myself and whether that’s any “good” or not. My point was that Iran would most likely want to consider how best to approach such an attack. I can’t help but feel it would behoove them to not unite the US by making war with Iran something Texas and California agree on.

      Iran has already made public statements to include the likes of “we are not at war with the American people.” I interpret that to mean they understand Trump (et al) as the enemy, not the American people. Therefore, I again state with conviction, I can not see a single scenario where the political climate of a state is not considered prior to any attack. This is political and if they were going to attack at all — it’ll be somewhere alined with their enemy (who they themselves said was not the American people). Sorry to say, but that’s not California. My point was merely that Texas would make more sense than California… not that any of this makes much sense in the first place.

      No, the US has a long imperialist career of wars of aggressions and war crimes. You have personally benefited from them by having low fuel costs, you are not innocent, you might not have consented to this, but you are part of it, your taxes paid for it. If anything the US is the nation that need to be liberated.

      Is this a different subject? I don’t really understand why this was the closing argument.

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        10 hours ago

        I doubt Iran will conduct an attack on US soil, only hopes to end this is for Trump to lose the midterms, which he will cheat. Any Iranian attack before the midterms will galvanize the nation, or give Trump more political capital to mess the election due to a crisis. Any attack will likely be an American false flag.

        my finishing statement is that no American is innocent. even the blue liberals. Both parties had a long history of war crimes and atrocities. so a Democrat state isn’t ‘one of the good ones’. It is something we need to fix, it is unbelievable that almost every US president has war crimes listed on their wiki, regardless of party lines. If you want to fix it make sure you vote in the primaries to ensure a progressive who doesn’t accept lobbying money (especially AIPAC/Military industrial complex) wins.

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          10 hours ago

          I doubt Iran will conduct an attack on US soil, only hopes to end this is for Trump to lose the midterms, which he will cheat. Any Iranian attack before the midterms will galvanize the nation, or give Trump more political capital to mess the election due to a crisis. Any attack will likely be an American false flag.

          I totally agree. It’s why I feel like the claim it would be California (of all places) is just icing on the cake. It’s silly to believe Iran is planning such a thing.

          my finishing statement is that no American is innocent. even the blue liberals. Both parties had a long history of war crimes and atrocities. so a Democrat state isn’t ‘one of the good ones’. It is something we need to fix, it is unbelievable that almost every US president has war crimes listed on their wiki, regardless of party lines. If you want to fix it make sure you vote in the primaries to ensure a progressive who doesn’t accept lobbying money (especially AIPAC/Military industrial complex) wins.

          Also agree.