This won’t end well

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  • HubertManne@piefed.social
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    22 hours ago

    seriously he has already said this. I never thought my democracy could so easily be swept aside growing up. Alls it takes is one treasonous party. thats it.

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      22 hours ago

      Correction: All it takes is for enough apathy from the people to allow such treason to exist in the first place. You get what you give.

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      22 hours ago

      What is frustrating is how much of a lift they got from the Murc’s Law media and so many reactionary centrists.

      Even now, they keep pretending as if all this just began with Pedonald. The Republicans have been signifying who and what they are for decades for anyone paying the least bit of attention and the willingness to look past bullshit artists like David Brooks.

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        21 hours ago

        I can’t blame folks completely because I look at myself. Was always left of center but you know I never really got nixons administration till I was much older. Did not like reagan but particular republican canidates appeared and even showed enough sincerity and character to vote for over a democrat. I did not vote for bush senior but I mark him the best republican president of my lifetime just behind the worst democrat. They just kept getting worse and worse and once I learned more about nixon I realized how its been this declining direction but it was not till the millenium that that they became not an option regardless. Basicly for me they could be an option in the 80’s (although on hindsite I just did not know better), then by late 90’s it was like ok not an option on the federal leve and then as the millenium progressed it went down and down from state to local to like school board it being unacceptable. Now I see the whole party as just having to go. 100% completely. Conservatives need to go make a new party and get back to values beside lower taxes and regulation and eff everything else. Need to care about deficits and even raise taxes to be fiscally responsible and channel some roosevelt progressive conservatism and remember lincoln and having some basic decency. The gop and republican are poisoned names and philosophies at this point and even libertarians have failed to follow their ideals enough to take over.

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      22 hours ago

      Liberal democracy sides with fascism literally always. Read some fucking history.

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        22 hours ago

        These type of bs coments are so annoying. Countries do not exclusively have treaties with other countries they like and the large majority of democracies can be said to be liberal democracies so its the type of thing that can be slanted to whatever the arguer wants.

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          22 hours ago

          Yes, now imagine how we feel, reading BS comments like yours… What a stupid thing to say.

          Sorry, were we talking about fascist capture of state power?

          Not sure what treaties have to do with it. Liberalism is not just an economic position, it has political dimensions as well.

          In pretty much every historical example I’m aware of, liberals happily ceded to or collaborated with the fascist seizure of the state.

          It’s happening again and no one has ANY excuse to be surprised.

          You sound a lot like someone who could benefit from reading Parenti’s Blackshirts and Reds.