• m0nt@piefed.social
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    2 days ago

    And those of you who speak this way about individuals who protested their votes seem incapable of seeing the bigger picture; that the reality is that people want to vote for a principled leader who believes in something, and the Democratic leadership failed us in 2024, just like they failed us in 2016. And even after winning in 2020, they still a managed to fail us by failing to uphold international law and failing to jail an insurrectionist pig that’s now in the white house.

    They failed us because they believe in nothing, and that’s why people protested their vote. Wake the fuck up and focus on primaries in 2026, then the general, and so on, and prevent this from happening again.

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      2 days ago

      We aren’t going to get to have any elections that count because of protest votes. Meanwhile the number of current and upcoming dead kids from loss of usaid alone is well into 6 figures. We killed both children and democracy in America because we are stupid.

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      Everyone wants to vote for a principled leader, but there are those of us who aren’t willing to give up the tiny bit of power we have just to try and prove a point.

      This is a 2 party system, regardless of lip service. Kamala wasn’t my first choice for president but she was the only one. It was her or the other fucker full stop. So, I did everything I could to elect the one who we had some hope of controlling. The dems showed they ultimately listen to their voters with enough pressure when they ditched Biden, the other guy we all knew what was going to happen.

      So, to all those protest voters, I’m super happy for you and your maga companions, feeling so proud of yourselves while the country burns.

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        First, as someone who voted for Kamala despite the noise of protest, and as someone who shared your same petty sentiment during the initial shock of the loss (the longer you hold it, the more pathetic because of how little it matters now), I wonder if that’s really the best you can come up with in defense of Democrats during 2024? After failing to admit it was their fault and not the voters? Yeah, they got rid of Biden, but not because of their constituency, but because it was threatening their positions of power as career politicians. They squandered the momentum and revitalization of the party when putting in Kamala after they had her mimic Biden’s campaign and failing to admit that the Gaza Genocide was a major proponent for her loss after the fact, to the point that they hid it officially from the public.

        Besides blaming it on individual protest voters, and thinking that was enough to really make a difference, especially after knowing this information now (some real dummy shit if you do), you’re going to discount the number of disaffected, cynical part of the population who didn’t vote because they don’t believe in our system anymore? Since the 90’s or 80’s even? How do you explain the record numbers for showing up for someone like Mamdani to vote, who had explicit beliefs and prpgressive, populist policies, who’s approval rating is going up because he’s implementing those policies? Showing the world what he left flank of politics is really capable of?

        You fail to understand the real sociological implications of the failure of Democrats, and you’re delusional if you think the voting for the lesser evil is enough of a standard to motivate people to vote.

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          I agree, it’s multi faceted, and yeah, the dems suck too. I just feel people have agency in this, and sometime, when faced with a difficult decision, adults need to make the best choice. I’m a parent and have to make all kinds of shitty decisions, often involving actual shit. But I’m an adult, and I know that a shitty decision that ultimately supports a good outcome, is still the right one.

          I’m 100% in agreement that the dems failed, but so did the electorate.