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    Sources: Gloria Steinem, New York Times (1967); Redstockings press release and research report (1975); The Village Voice (May 21, 1979); Frances Stonor Saunders, The Cultural Cold War (1999); Daniel Brandt, NameBase/Portland

    It’s kinda fucked that they link to Wikipedia all throughout this article, but the real primary source material has zero links.

    Kinda kills your credibility.

    Would it be too much to upload your primary source material to archive.org and link to it?

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    I’m not sure how feminism can mean equality for all when all of us have a billionaire problem.

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    Gloria Steinem was paid $20k to speak/q&a at my school by an alumni committee and it was an hour of students just tearing her to shreds about what a money grubbing POS she was. It was great.

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    Feminists of the 70s did not give two fucks about intersectionality or helping the oppressed…they only cared about white women getting the same slice of the pie as white men.

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      White feminists*

      Black feminists wanted to talk about class and racism, it’s just the media didn’t give them a microphone to talk about it…

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        Ya it’s an effect of the passage of time, that’s why we label the 3 waves of feminism in America. the movement got broader and more inclusive as the years went on. Which upset some of the older feminists like JK Rowling who refused the memo of equality for all.

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      Continuing the tradition. The suffragette movement was tied to the civil rights movement. Until the white patriarchy promised white women the right to vote if they dumped the civil rights movement. Then the white women went “fyigm” and helped keep Jim Crow alive.

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        It’s amazing how a large movement can achieve half its goals and then pull up the ladder on the other half isn’t it?

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    When Ramparts broke the story in 1967, Steinem confirmed her role to The New York Times without apology, describing the CIA as “liberal, nonviolent and honorable” and stating she would do it again.

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    Abstract expressionism (ie modern art) was actually pushed by the CIA as well (source), though the motivation in this case is murkier

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      Not really? Soviets were pushing hyper-realism so the US government funded the opposite

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        I didn’t know that. Either way it seems a bit odd that the CIA would care so deeply about matters of artistic taste

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          They didn’t. It was about opposing the Soviets everywhere more than anything

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            A foolish strategy. It means you allow your opponent to limit you. People who like hyper realism would have no option but Soviet art.

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              It’s also a stupid strategy because modern art is pretty dumb (I know I might get hate for this but lets be real guys)

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            Yes but the extent to which they’d go to oppose the Soviets even on trivial matters seems silly

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              Unless you lived in that era it’s really hard to imagine how the reds lived in the imagination of every American. if you’re old enough to remember the war culture during the start of Iraq/Afghanistan. it was like that on steroids. 50 years of Cold War means a couple generations were completely consumed by it. The cold war nostalgia tour didn’t end until the “terrorists are every where” tour began.

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                I’m not old enough to remember the first one and I’m not American so I was never really caught up in the second one, so it is genuinely hard for me to understand why the CIA cared so deeply about Soviet artistic preferences that they conducted psyops to oppose them. I’m not doubting that it happened, it just seems bizarre to me