• theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    I have won this argument for a 2nd time because you have no other response besides “no u”

    In the meantime, us vegans will keep convincing people successfully that…

    Honestly, this reads as you trying to reconvince yourself. Just repeat the mantra to yourself, and the cognitive dissonance that I brought to light will go away?

    any animal can be raped

    True

    cows who are artificially inseminated

    Is not rape and you already admitted it is not equivalent to rape. Consider if you would look an actual rape victim in the face and talk to them about artificial insemination of cows as if it were rape and comparable to the real suffering they went through. I bet you wouldn’t.

    • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      18 hours ago

      You keep trying to catch me in a trap as if I fell into one. You’re hallucinating.

      Real suffering

      Shows your speciesist bias. How fortunate that you ignore to acknowledge that bias in order to buff up your argument and make it appear stronger than it is.

      Artificial insemination is rape, and cows suffer as a result, just as women do, dogs do, and any other species.

      And for the record, you don’t care about women getting raped. You literally don’t give a fuck because if you did, you’d understand the parallels between what humans can experience and what non-human animals can experience. Rape to any animal is a violation that can fuck them up, psychologically!

      But your sick, egotistical, selfish world view blocks you from giving a shit. I suspect this world view also extends to other beliefs of yours.

      Go crawl back into the hole where you feel morally righteous. Meanwhile, is vegans will continue to fight for animal rights which includes anti-artificial insemination and freedom.

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        17 hours ago

        Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

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          16 hours ago

          Interesting to hear this perspective when theunknownmuncher has been doing the same throughout my thread with them and this entire post.

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            13 hours ago

            you’re sick and twisted

            Yes dumbass.

            Truly not shaking the dumbass reputation.

            for the record, you don’t care about women getting raped. You literally don’t give a fuck

            your sick, egotistical, selfish world view blocks you from giving a shit. I suspect this world view also extends to other beliefs of yours.

            Go crawl back into the hole where you feel morally righteous

            the other user hasn’t said anything that rises to the level of these statements from you.

            try to be civil.

          • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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            16 hours ago

            No, I never make personal attacks or ad hominem. The fact that you’ve stooped to this level shows that your argument has failed and you cannot use logic or reasoning to back it up.

            What does it say that you’ve downvoted the message “Personal attacks are not welcome here”. I think everyone should support that message.

            • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              14 hours ago

              You made a personal attack when you put words in my mouth and forced me to take a position I never held.

              I’m defending myself accordingly.

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                  13 hours ago

                  Theunknownmuncher said that I trivialize the experience of human rape victims. I never said anything that would trivialize their experiences. I advocated for broadening the scope of what we call rape to more than just humans. It’s anthropocentric to think that only humans can be raped.

                  Does this sub encourage bad faith discussions? That seems to be against the principle of civility.

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                    12 hours ago

                    Theunknownmuncher said that I trivialize the experience of human rape victims.

                    i think it’s reasonable to say that when you compare a veterinary procedure to rape.

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                    12 hours ago

                    I advocated for broadening the scope of what we call rape to more than just humans. It’s anthropocentric to think that only humans can be raped.

                    I’ve never contested this. We agree on this point. Continuing to argue it is a strawman.