• lalo@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4 days ago

    You asked for clarification on the second question, yet could at least have answered the first one. Seem like you are avoiding answering the first question.

    I don’t know what your imaginary “hooman” is. Imagine a random human you don’t know. It’s that human, they have every human characteristic but it’s discovered they aren’t from the species Homo sapiens.

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      I didn’t answer it because equating slaves to livestock is reprehensble and disgusting. Of course artificially inseminating any person, no matter free or enslaved, is rape.

      they have every human characteristic but

      but

      So they don’t then, do they?

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        Of course they don’t, that’s why I used the word “but”. Now you also realized why I named them “hoomans” instead of “humans”. Good one!

        Kinda like we can say “odd numbers are the integers but the multiples of 2”. “But” meaning “removed”, “without”.

        Are you gonna answer any of my questions? I don’t want other people to have the impression that you avoid questions, but I’m afraid this deep in the thread they might feel like you’re avoiding answering.

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          4 days ago

          I have already answered all of them. No one can answer the “question” (invalid due to the flaws I’ve identified that haven’t been addressed) that concerns the “hooman”. I would answer it if it could be answered.

          And yeah I’m really not worried about that being the impression folks take away from this conversation 🤣

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            I’m really not worried about that being the impression folks take away from this conversation

            I grant you that.

            Now please remind me what was your answer to “If I own a human slave, me artificially inseminating them without consent isn’t rape?”.

            Also please point out the concern with the second question that went unaddressed.

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                You can’t specifically point to your answer to my question because you haven’t answered it. So I’ll pose if for the third time:

                If I own a human slave, me artificially inseminating them without consent isn’t rape?

                The same way you can’t point to a concern that I left unaddressed, because there isn’t. So I’ll pose it for the third time as well:

                If I DNA test the slave from earlier and discover they aren’t human, inseminating them without consent wouldn’t be rape?

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                  You can’t specifically point to your answer to my question because you haven’t answered it.

                  If I own a human slave, me artificially inseminating them without consent isn’t rape?

                  To clarify, I did mean without consent. Obviously people undergoing IVF or other fertility treatments by choice is not rape.

                  If I DNA test the slave from earlier and discover they aren’t human, inseminating them without consent wouldn’t be rape?

                  If you can’t remember my direct and plain answers to your questions, or do your due diligence to scroll up and reread them, then this discussion cannot be productive. That’s your responsibility.

                  You’re not a goldfish. You know I already answered these. So clearly you’re engaging in bad faith. Blocked.

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                    I grant you that you’ve answered my first question. My bad for accusing you of not answering it, the message got lost in the same paragraph that was justifying an answer refusal.

                    I have clarified “what are hoomans” in a well defined manner and I’ll do it again: Hoomans are like any human you don’t know, but it’s been found out that they’re not from the Homo sapiens species. I also clarified that to have a false equivalency you have to have two different things being regarded as equivalent, which none of my questions have.

                    What’s the difference between a human and a non-human animal that justifies calling the fisting of one rape and not the other?