• furry toaster@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 days ago

    it is not a needed treatment for the health and well being of the cow, it is a unecessary treatment forced upon the animal

      • Baŝto@discuss.tchncs.de
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        3 days ago

        a) we don’t b) they can happily fuck on their own, it just makes it harder to exploit them for their body fluids. Nobody cares about the calves, they are just needed for the mothers to lactate

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          3 days ago

          Wouldn’t it make more sense to simply induce lactation than go through the whole rigmarole of artificial insemination and then having to dispose of the unwanted calves?

          • Apparently not, otherwise that’s what farmers would do. Milk production is not an on-off thing either. There is milk for newborns (colostrum) for older babies, there is less fatty and more fatty milk, milk production is a wondrous thing that is regulated by the babies saliva, the moms hormones, how much milk got eaten, how the baby looks even. You can be breastfeeding two kids, if you consistently feed breast A to kid A and breast B to kid B the milk they produce will be different!

            And that’s what the farmer is taking away from the mom. Using prolactin to induce milk production is also very error prone and not reliable. At least in humans afaik but I don’t see why it should be that different for cows.

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        3 days ago

        You can find cows that fuck, no need to insert yourself into the reproductive cycle of cows.

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          2 days ago

          Nah, just for eating, they don’t need to work. We got tractors for that.

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              2 days ago

              How is doing nothing and getting eaten worse than having to do slave labour and getting eaten?

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                2 days ago

                I suppose if that were the case it wouldn’t but it’s really not worth the argument tbh. They’re both bad enough. Also it’s not the case, the cow still has to do slave labour.

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                  2 days ago

                  They must be working the night shift, because I can see them standing around on the pastures all day.

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                    2 days ago

                    Milk production is labor. And if you’re gonna disagree I would direct you to my wife but I should warn you of her right hook lol. Although she is very tired these days from having to produce all that milk for our baby so maybe you’ll get away with it. Also most cows aren’t on pastures. You literally can’t see most cows.