• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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    Fascism won because millions of people refused to vote against it, because the alternative wasn’t perfect.

    Stop blaming the people who literally voted against fascism. Does believing in harm reduction make one a “shitlib” in your view?

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      Fascism won because the Democratic party didn’t want to adopt an anti-genocide stance. Its not harm reduction when it enables the harm. Its not strategic voting when the strategy backfires.

      You’re an apologist for fascism if you are blaming voters.

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        2 days ago

        Biden and Harris were nowhere near as bad for Gaza as trump is, and papering over that detail hasn’t helped the situation

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            Trump is the fascist. I’m not apologizing for fascism, I hate it with a burning passion. I’m simply stating that anyone who allowed him to get elected was enabling fascism.

            Stop trying to obfuscate things by acting like Biden and Harris were as bad as trump.

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              Ahh yes. The “I’m not pro genocide, I’m just advocating for the candidates who are pro genocide”.

              If you argued people needed to vote for Harris instead of advocating that Harris needed to change her stance, you are pro genocide.

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                So what did getting trump elected do for the genocide?

                (Hint: if you say anything other than accelerate it with the explicit intention of seeing it through to completion, then you’re wrong)

                You can’t hide the fact that the situation in gaza wouldn’t be as bad as it is now, if Kamala Harris won in 2024. So unless you think harm reduction is a myth, then you don’t really have a point.

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                  You can’t hide the fact that the situation in gaza wouldn’t be as bad as it is now, if Kamala Harris won in 2024.

                  Its fucking irrelevant because she lost the fucking election supporting a genocide.

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                    1 day ago

                    To someone supporting it even more strongly.

                    Also, there’s a difference between passive support and active support. One is not doing enough to stop it, the other is actively encouraging it.