Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. …

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. …

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

  • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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    14 小时前

    I don’t need to imagine, you called me “a disabled person” as an insult

    I asked you as a hypothetical. It was meant to verify the cause for your gross historical ignorance and genocidal tendencies.

    Several people have explained to you several times how and why you are wrong

    Yeah, by ignoring archaeological and historical evidence. Cheers for that. I’ll stick to facts, not fundamentalist faith.

    your racist condescending European colonial attitude

    “Both peoples have the right to the land their ancestors come from” - such colonialism, much condescension! Wow!

    it impossible for you to actually grasp the reality of colonialism and therefore the reality of “Israel”.

    One people living in an area and getting a country: all good.

    Another people living in an area and getting a country: COLONIALISM!

    Are you hearing yourself?

    40 years ago you would have been crying about how “the Blacks” want to commit genocide against the white South Africans and denying that they were colonizers too

    the two situations are the same but everyone today knows that the South African example would be obviously racist.

    The two situations are MASSIVELY different.

    Whites had no business being in SA in the first place, especially as colonisers.

    Whereas Jews/Israelites lived in the Palestine Region for at least 2600 years before Israel and Palestine became a thing.

    Go read the 2017 charter instead of assuming the people you think are below you match the caricature you have of them in your head.

    OK, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and let you explain it to me.

    Let’s even ignore the fact that Hamas keeps flinging dumb rockets at Israel non-stop. Let’s even pretend that the recent attack was “an inside job” or something.

    How are they going to “restore the lands of Palestine”, defined as “everything between the river Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea” without literally making Israel non-existent, thus eradicating it?

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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      I asked you as a hypothetical. It was meant to verify the cause for your gross historical ignorance and genocidal tendencies.

      “I wasn’t being ableist! I was just saying that mental disability causes ‘genocidal tendencies’”

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      14 小时前

      I asked you as a hypothetical. It was meant to verify the cause for your gross historical ignorance and genocidal tendencies.

      lmao, weak deflection. You assumed I was “bad” because of a mental disability as a hypothetical. There’s a word for that, it’s “ableism”, the same as if you had hypothetically asked if I was the r-slur (because it means the same thing as an insult).

      I’m not reading all that. Death to “Israel”, death to Europe, death to empire, death to colonialism, free Palestine.

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        14 小时前

        You assumed I was “bad” because of a mental disability as a hypothetical

        I didn’t assume anything, hence the question, not a statement. That’s how questions work. You imagining it being a statement is yet another example of your approach of just fighting invented arguments.

        I’m not reading all that

        So, nothing really changed, has it?

        Death to “Israel”, death to Europe, death to empire, death to colonialism

        Like I said: you’re an extremist fundamentalist and a proponent of genocide. I’m glad you finally just flat out admitted it.

        free Palestine

        At least in this we agree, I guess.

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          Still an ableist, still a racist, Death to “Israel”, death to Europe, death to empire, death to colonialism, free Palestine.

          Ignoring your inability to tell the difference between “death to a political entity” and “death to the entire population”, very funny that you think “death to empire” and “death to colonialism” are “genocidal”. Oh no, won’t someone think of the poor white people colonizing, stealing, and committing genocide?

          free Palestine

          At least in this we agree, I guess.

          You can keep lying to yourself.