Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728
Ahoy mateys!
A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.
But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. …
More context
Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.
As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. …
Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.
In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.
Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated
i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it
“I want Hitler to be prosecuted, but how dare you call for the destruction of the Reich or violence against Germany!”
You are defending genocide; you are a genocide defender.
Oh! That’s a great example!
Show me on the map which countries have partitioned and taken over Germany’s lands after WW2!
Are you… suggesting that the existence of Germany on our current maps is a hoax and in reality it doesn’t exist…?
WTF are you trying to show here?
Facts are this: 3rd Reich got spanked, its government eliminated, its people remained where they were, and after a short while, governance over the territory was restored to the German people (with the exception of East Germany, but that had nothing to do with 3rd Reich being removed, that was just russia’s attempt at colonialism).
Now, in terms of Israel, people here seem to be suggesting that we should let Hamas “do its thing”, which is: the complete eradication of Israel as a state, a nation, and a culture. Which, by all definitions, is a genocide.
I’m saying: let’s spank them, eliminate their government, let their people remain where they are, and after a short while, restore the governance of its territory to the Israeli people (with the caveat that West Bank and Gaza return to Palestine).
Which is what we did with the 3rd Reich. And for which you people are calling me a proponent of colonialism and genocide.
I hope you understand that playing semantic calvinball doesn’t actually convince anyone
Again: WTF are you talking about?
I’m literally suggesting that Israel should be dealt with exactly like the 3rd Reich - get rid of the fascist government, restore law and order in the region, protect Palestine. But not by eradicating Israel. One genocide does not justify another!
And for that, the extremist fundamentalists around here are calling me a “genocide advocate”.
So you want the right of return to be denied, Palestine to continue to exist as non-contiguous bantustans, and for Israel to simply re-elect a fascist government.
No.
Then you contradict yourself