There are Americans who are "obscenely obese and at the same time malnourished," Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says. He blames ultraprocessed food.
Pizza, made right, isn’t ultra processed. Flour, oil, tomato sauce and cheese are simply processed foods.
It’s the ingredients that are changed using chemistry, food science, and heavy machinery that are ultra processed. Stuff like, Silicon dioxide, calcium silicate, magnesium stearate, BHA, BHT, sodium benzoate, potassium sorbate…these things are ultra processed. Flour is simply processed.
There is a big difference between processed foods, and ultra processed. I don’t think it’s a bad idea for anyone to limit or avoid ultra processed foods.
Edit, fuck rfk
Edit edit, for my comrades, if you avoild UPFs, you also avoid food corpos automatically. You dont support Nestlé, or Hershey, or whoever makes Pringles, Kraft or Kellogg, you dont support these giant food corps who underpay their workers and have shady anti human business practices. Using whole food ingredients and simple processed ingredients, farming, gardening and cooking are all revolutionary practices you can do today. Fuck the big man ya know, you don’t like capitalism stop eating its food.
It’s how the ingredients were made, that go into the food.
If you were avoiding UPFs you could have everything on this list except the ice cream (and not all ice cream are UPF to note) and standard American grocery loaf of bread (bread that usually has a few grams of sugar per slice for some reason, to tangent).
Per the mayo clinic source, its not made up.
UPFs no longer resemble any food found in nature or within historical human processing. These foods are new invention using already processed foods combined with food chemistry and industrialization.
Group 4 is the naughty stuff. Group 4 ingredients are only used by food manufacturers. For example, You don’t purchase Silicon dioxide as a kitchen staple.
They’re hawking a mayo-clinic diet here. It’s propaganda. Check the ads on the page and the items they’re selling. This is an appeal to authority fallacy. The whole NOVA system is a con.
I point out inconsistencies, it all makes sense to you, because you like the idea.
The whole page is garbage all the way to the end.
Nothing in group 2 is distinguishable from group 1,
Adding salt to a group 1 item doesn’t make it magically different. Adding salt to nuts does not change them meaningfully. Adding salt to flour does not change its nutritional value.
Items in group four can be made out of two group one/two items. There are single-ingredient breakfast serials that are group 2. Notice, they don’t even list flour in the group, one of the most important staples in the human diet. The whole page is one big inconsistency.
If the salt to nuts and sugar and milk don’t make it clear, you’re drinking the upf Koolaide just to drink it and there’s nothing else we have to say here.
I just dont like the idea of ingesting stuff I can’t make on my own. And obviously we still use some of it, but it’s not a bad idea to limit UPF for your health. Meals cooked from scratch are a health benefit.
I didn’t post the Mayo clinic source, they did, so I used that.
I went through this learning when I lost 80 pounds when I was 20, during the Obama years, and I kept it off leaning on home cooking, whole food meals most of the time. Avoiding stuff like yellow #5 which, I think is disgusting as its a petroleum by product, but avoiding UPF is how I maintain my weight in car centric Usa. It cuts out all the junk very easily this way, and its not actually that complicated
Pizza, made right, isn’t ultra processed. Flour, oil, tomato sauce and cheese are simply processed foods.
It’s the ingredients that are changed using chemistry, food science, and heavy machinery that are ultra processed. Stuff like, Silicon dioxide, calcium silicate, magnesium stearate, BHA, BHT, sodium benzoate, potassium sorbate…these things are ultra processed. Flour is simply processed.
There is a big difference between processed foods, and ultra processed. I don’t think it’s a bad idea for anyone to limit or avoid ultra processed foods.
Edit, fuck rfk
Edit edit, for my comrades, if you avoild UPFs, you also avoid food corpos automatically. You dont support Nestlé, or Hershey, or whoever makes Pringles, Kraft or Kellogg, you dont support these giant food corps who underpay their workers and have shady anti human business practices. Using whole food ingredients and simple processed ingredients, farming, gardening and cooking are all revolutionary practices you can do today. Fuck the big man ya know, you don’t like capitalism stop eating its food.
The whole thing is a con.
https://mcpress.mayoclinic.org/nutrition-fitness/key-ingredients-to-avoid-in-ultra-processed-foods/
Nitrate Cured meat: Processed (actual recorded small cancer risk)
Smoked meat: Processed (actual recorded small cancer risk)
Milk and sugar frozen to make Ice Cream: ultra processed Commerically baked bread: ultra processed
Same bread home baked: Processed
Nuts: unprocessed
Salted nuts: processed
Canned Tuna: processed (it’s literally just non-browned cooked meat)
It’s all made up and the points don’t matter.
this all makes sense to me.
It’s how the ingredients were made, that go into the food.
If you were avoiding UPFs you could have everything on this list except the ice cream (and not all ice cream are UPF to note) and standard American grocery loaf of bread (bread that usually has a few grams of sugar per slice for some reason, to tangent).
Per the mayo clinic source, its not made up.
UPFs no longer resemble any food found in nature or within historical human processing. These foods are new invention using already processed foods combined with food chemistry and industrialization.
Group 4 is the naughty stuff. Group 4 ingredients are only used by food manufacturers. For example, You don’t purchase Silicon dioxide as a kitchen staple.
They’re hawking a mayo-clinic diet here. It’s propaganda. Check the ads on the page and the items they’re selling. This is an appeal to authority fallacy. The whole NOVA system is a con.
I point out inconsistencies, it all makes sense to you, because you like the idea.
The whole page is garbage all the way to the end.
Nothing in group 2 is distinguishable from group 1,
Adding salt to a group 1 item doesn’t make it magically different. Adding salt to nuts does not change them meaningfully. Adding salt to flour does not change its nutritional value.
Items in group four can be made out of two group one/two items. There are single-ingredient breakfast serials that are group 2. Notice, they don’t even list flour in the group, one of the most important staples in the human diet. The whole page is one big inconsistency.
If the salt to nuts and sugar and milk don’t make it clear, you’re drinking the upf Koolaide just to drink it and there’s nothing else we have to say here.
My aldi tortilla Chips are processed.
My aldi bread is UPF.
I don’t understand your anger/frustration.
I just dont like the idea of ingesting stuff I can’t make on my own. And obviously we still use some of it, but it’s not a bad idea to limit UPF for your health. Meals cooked from scratch are a health benefit.
I didn’t post the Mayo clinic source, they did, so I used that.
I went through this learning when I lost 80 pounds when I was 20, during the Obama years, and I kept it off leaning on home cooking, whole food meals most of the time. Avoiding stuff like yellow #5 which, I think is disgusting as its a petroleum by product, but avoiding UPF is how I maintain my weight in car centric Usa. It cuts out all the junk very easily this way, and its not actually that complicated