• hector@lemmy.today
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    1 day ago

    There is nothing to investigate for the state. They have video. This is brazen murder, 1st degree in truth.

    Charge, nevermind what the feds will do, they were always going to try and do those things anyway.

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      19 hours ago

      Yes, but the state does not acknowledge the video, therefore what they say is the truth and your eyes are lying to you. See what you have here is a problem that will not legally go away, you have to force it out. Like a splinter. It needs to be excised. But that still leaves you with a broken body politic that needs major reform or dissolution.

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      20 hours ago

      Nah, I know someone that works in the FBI who is one of my favorite people. She’s probably the most stand-up, dependable person I know. There are plenty of people like her, who genuinely want to make the world safer, and are just as horrified with everything that’s going on. The person I know hunts down serial killers and shit. Her position is less likely to be politicized, but I know that if it was, she wouldn’t compromise her morals.

      Basically, it’s silly to demonize them as a whole. They’re not like street cops who are largely trained to be attack dogs. The more good people we have in the FBI, the better. Those that follow unlawful orders though, deserve to be thrown in prison with the rest of the fascists.

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        5 hours ago

        What you say is something that many people say, and certainly there’s an element of truth to it. It’s not like you’re lying to us about what you’ve observed.

        But at the same time, here’s a very important question. Has your friend at the FBI ever arrested and gotten another FBI agent convicted for the crimes that they have surely witnessed occurring? Obviously this depends on their exact position, but ask this to any police officer friend that you have. When is the last time that they pulled over another cop and wrote them a ticket for a moving traffic violation? When is the last time they wrote themselves a ticket for a moving traffic violation? The answer is probably going to be never.

        Of course it’s possible you can find that 0.001%. They probably do exist somewhere, especially if it’s a very small police department or FBI Branch office. But let’s just play the odds, and everyone who thinks they have an LEO friend who’s honest, probably most of them are wrong. What they probably actually have is a friend who usually obeys the law themself but does not force their co-workers to obey it.

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          18 hours ago

          The feds haven’t had the systemic problem of local police with the “thin blue line” shit.

          Until this year, the feds were generally pretty trustworthy.

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              17 hours ago

              Sure, that’s punchy, but misses the point.

              The feds haven’t had decades to force out anyone who would do the right thing. There are still plenty of good feds (and now, also, many bad ones).

              Outside of ICE, painting with this broad brush isn’t helpful.

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                  15 hours ago

                  We’re gonna need some of the government to help protect and defend the Constitution of the United State of America.

                  Not everyone is against the Constitution.