• wheezy@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    So if someone wanted to GTFO and avoid living in the Nazi state but also not be invaded by the US or be in one of its Allie countries that will follow the same path inevitably. Where would you go?

    China, would probably be the least likely to get fucked unless the US goes full nuclear (and really nowhere is safe). But I don’t think that’s so easy.

    Vietnam, maybe?

    I can’t see Europe doing well as NATO is dismantled.

    Like, our world is literally getting fucked. If it was just me. I’d stay in the US and accept my fate and resist. But, I got a two year old kid that is only 50% of the race that our fascist leaders approve of.

    History will write of the Gaza genocide is the catalyst and testing ground for the start of WW3. But we are here now. And I just want my kid to see 30.

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      6 days ago

      Maybe New Zealand? Far enough away from anything interesting and their main exports are dairy products. English as one of the official languages. Only time will tell which way the politics will go.

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        6 days ago

        As far as I’m aware New Zealand stopped immigration in 2024. So that might not be an option.

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      5 days ago

      No experience with kids in Vietnam, but the country is really nice. Not too sure about the safety nets in case you lose a job, especially since it would also mean you lose your residence permit…

      As for europe, I think it will do reasonably fine for the next ~30 years, the decline of capitalism will be slower than in the US because it has at least some regulation in place to slow down the wealth inequality explosion. The quality of life is better than Vietnam, especially outside big cities. Practically speaking, I’d trust the safety net more too, at least for the near future. Racism depends on the country, I think your kid would do fine in most. The main drawbacks are of course that the safety net and quality of life is funded by imperialism (some from gnarly neo-colonial imperialism, looking at you France, others just economic exploitation of the global south), and that the capitalist system will decay there eventually too.

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      6 days ago

      Europe also has nuclear weapons so it will not be invaded, even when US exists NATO. Some new alliance will be formed. Worst case scenario for Europe is that more countries will exit EU and turn into right wing dictatorships like Hungary. Most of the countries in EU are healthy democracies with strong, independent judiciaries so this will not happen that fast. Right now I would bet that it will be dismantled eventually but it will take another decade or two. Exact same thing can happen everywhere but even faster. Europe is still your best bet.