• Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    Wait what?

    Shaheds don’t have any sensors other than a pretty crappy camera (on some of them) and some GPS navigation. The Verba manpad bolted on doesn’t have any sensors except on the missile after firing.

    How are they using this thing?

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      It looks like one of th drone defenses is helicopters and planes presumably gunning them down with machine guns. I guess this helps counter that?

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        Yeah, this is definitely dangerous but it doesn’t solve the true problem which is how is the target sensed? A helicopter or aircraft hunting these unmanned aircraft should be carrying much more powerful sensing equipment than these drones can could so for this to work something forward must sense the target which may be a viable tactic but in my opinion it still relies on Ukrainian interceptors to let their guard down to work.

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          There’s also a problem of controlling it. Cut the comms between the pilot and the drone and it’s back to being a usual shahed. They already tried this setup with an R-60, same shit different weapon platform.

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            I think the bigger issue is aiming. I don’t think MANPADS have a huge targeting arc and your not attacking these head on so aiming has got to be a neigh impossible with latency / input lag.

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          I fear theory vs reality in this one. If a couple helicopter pilots are trying to save a city, they may not have the bandwidth to deal with all th drones in the airspace at once and get too close, even with vastly superior technology. But I don’t know how hard it actually is to gun down a drone

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            But I don’t know how hard it actually is to gun down a drone

            For an attack helicopter with a turret, trivial especially if automated targetting assistance is integrated.

            I fear theory vs reality in this one. If a couple helicopter pilots are trying to save a city, they may not have the bandwidth to deal with all th drones in the airspace at once and get too close, even with vastly superior technology.

            To be clear I think the future is helicopters + drones not one or the other so the question to me this scenario poses is why didn’t the helicopters have a screen of protecting cheap loiter/surveillance drones or interceptors already in the air waiting?

            I am sure this kind of thing will eventually happen, I just doubt it will be broadly effective.