Move is part of a long-awaited Labour strategy including outlawing hen cages and ending puppy farming

Boiling lobsters while they are alive and conscious will be banned as part of a government strategy to improve animal welfare in England.

Government ministers say that “live boiling is not an acceptable killing method” for crustaceans and alternative guidance will be published.

The practice is already illegal in Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. Animal welfare charities say that stunning lobsters with an electric gun or chilling them in cold air or ice before boiling them is more humane.

  • Spacenut@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    22 hours ago

    Cmon let’s be real, again this is a very simple trophic levels thing. If you truly care about the suffering of all the field mice and bugs and whatever being killed in soybean monocultures, and their other various environmental harms, then surely you would be vegan, because 75% of all soybeans grown globally are used as animal feed. (Source)

    • anarchaos@lemmy.mlEnglish
      11·
      1 hour ago

      75% of the weight of the crop is fed to animals, but 69% of the crop weight would be industrial waste if it wasn’t fed to animals. that’s a conservation of resources

      • Spacenut@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        55 minutes ago

        United States Department of Agriculture. PSD Online. Available at: https://apps.fas.usda.gov/psdonline/app/index.html#/app/advQuery.{/ref}

        The majority (77%) of the world’s soy is fed to livestock for meat and dairy production. 7% is fed directly to animals as soybeans, but the remainder is first processed into soybean ‘cake’.{ref}Soybean cake (sometimes referred to as soybean meal) is a high-protein feed made from the pressurization, heat treatment, and extraction processing of soybeans. The oil is extracted from the soybeans to leave a protein-rich product.

        Per the source above, although it’s fair if you missed it because it’s in the footnotes

        • anarchaos@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          48 minutes ago

          soybeans are pressed in an oil press. the soybean meal is a byproduct of that process, and if we didn’t give it to livestock, it would be industrial waste

    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      12·
      21 hours ago

      If you truly care about the suffering of all the field mice and bugs

      they’re saying they don’t and neither does anyone else. it’s a silly concern: animals die, and humans eat animals.

    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      12·
      21 hours ago

      a soybean is about 20% oil. about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil, that leaves about 69% of the total soybean crop as industrial waste if it’s not fed to animals. another 7% is fed directly to livestock. only 7% of all soybeans are grown for animals.

      • Spacenut@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        20 hours ago

        I understand the core of your argument: “animals can eat parts of the plant that humans can’t, so it’s most efficient to use those as animal feed instead of wasting them.” But this is not really engaging with the source I posted above, showing that, indeed, farmed animals are directly fed only 7% of all raw soybeans produced in the world, but 69% of all soybeans are specifically produced to be turned into high-protein processed animal feed, for a total of 76%.

        From your previous comments though, it doesn’t really seem like you’re engaging in good faith. Feel free to have the last word, have a great day

        • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          11·
          15 hours ago

          69% of all soybeans are specifically produced to be turned into high-protein processed animal feed

          no. 85% are pressed for oil, and the waste product is 69% of the soybean crop. that is fed to animals.